quote: PowerAMD has made numerous improvements compared to the K8 core:The FPU unit can be turned off when not neededClock gating is implemented much betterEach core can run at its own frequency (but the voltage is the highest needed by either core)Power for the core and memory controller are split
quote: you end up with more effective L3 cache per core (same amount, just shared between fewer cores)
quote: It will cost AMD the same amount to manufacture a tri-core CPU as a quad-core CPU so it seems like AMD will loose potential revenue with every tri-core CPU sold.
quote: Without knowing what that image was supposed to be, you simply cannot conclude that the author's claims (which were related to the precision of some nVidia shaders) were true or false.
quote: SOME TWO weeks back we promised you screenshots to back up a story about a fudge on Nvidia benchmarks.
quote: But since the benchmark's author did not say what the image was supposed to be, for all you or I know, it could simply be the result of running a pre-rendered bitmap through some shader code, using a manually defined mask.
quote: Unfortunately it seems a lot of people like to comment on issues related to pixel shaders without even understanding what a pixel shader is. Pixel shaders operate in pixel space
quote: Saying that "it looks just like a filter was applied in Photoshop, which proves it wasn't a pixel shader" is a demonstration of ignorance
quote: Of course, it's easier to make a lot of noise and vote down posts that point out your ignorance than it is to actually go learn something about it. But the problem with that approach is that you continue to be ignorant.
quote: First, Fudo (who will believe just about anything, and misunderstands half of what he's told) is not the author of the benchmark ..(blah blah blah).. as a way to dismiss (or avoid addressing) that claim.
quote: Second, tons of benchmarks use stock / public domain images that can be found on the web (does the name "Lenna" ring any bells?). Your point was...?
quote: Third, "screenshot" is not the same as saying "a 3D render". Lots of benchmarks include 2D tests, and there is no fundamental difference between running a pixel shader on a 2D bitmap or on a 3D scene.
quote: If, as you claim, you've "had your hands on tons of game code" (more than I can possibly image - whoah! you must be John Carmack's smarter brother), you must know that.
quote: others had a bad CPU and were sold as 487SX.
quote: Intel and AMD have refined that practice to making all their processors with the maximum amount of cache and selling the ones that partially failed validation as reduced-cache variants.
quote: The TriCore® is the first unified, single-core, 32-bit microcontroller-DSP architecture optimized for real-time embedded systems. The TriCore® Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) combines the real-time capability of a microcontroller, the computational power of a DSP, and the high performance/price features of a RISC load/store architecture, in a compact re-programmable core.
quote: I'm well impressed.
quote: So ultimately they stand a chance of fragging the dual core market, and forcing Intel to make their money off of quad cores
quote: Is there sufficient market for such type CPUs ?
quote: What does AMD gain by introducing such a processors ?
quote: Will the prospective buyers be impressed enough to buy it ?
quote: a product that's been talked about but not released yet
quote: "Vaporware" is a product that's been talked about but not released yet, especially applied to products that are far behind schedule. So it's pretty fair to characterize Phenom as vaporware since it meets all these criteria.
quote: And likewise on the mass-market, with mum and pops shopping for their next family PC or the kiddies summer back to school PC. Geez, this cost $199 and have 2 cores and this cost $200 and have 3 cores, mmmm, what should I choose?
quote: Why do you hate our troops?
quote: The new triple-core microprocessors will feature its own design and will not be quad-core chips with one core disabled, according to the web-site.
quote: Essentially, the Phenom triple-core processors are quad-core variants with one core disabled.
quote: Did you know AMD's new chips support SSE5, which includes several 128-bit instructions?
quote: With 2.5GHz in hand today, we'd expect Phenom to be at or below 2.6GHz by the end of the year, with 3.0GHz coming sometime in 2008.
quote: Popular traditions have preserved for our times the remembrance of the "ugly-grown" horse, that is, of a three-legged horse, which on its appearance brings sickness, epidemics, and plagues. The Danish popular belief (Thiele, i. 137, 138) knows this monster, and the word Hel-horse has been preserved in the vocabulary of the Danish language. The diseases brought by the Hel-horse are extremely dangerous, but not always fatal. When they are not fatal, the convalescent is regarded as having ransomed his life with that tribute of loss of strength and of torture which the disease caused him, and in a symbolic sense he has then "given death a bushel of oats" (that is, to its horse). According to popular belief in Slesvik (Arnkiel, i. 55; cp. J. Grimm, Deutsche Myth., 804), Hel rides in the time of a plague on a three-legged horse and kills people. Thus the ugly-grown horse is not forgotten in traditions from the heathen time. http://www.heithni.org/rydberg/175.php