brain sizes: Einstein's and women's
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Mon Sep 16 20:54:25 EST 2002
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John Knight wrote:
> "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
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>>>(Webster) And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nations [read:
> races] which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and
> therefore I abhorred them.
>>>(YLT) and ye walk not in the statutes of the nation [read: race] which I
> am sending away from before you, for all these they have done, and I am
> wearied with them;
>>I see many translations all of which use the word "nation" or
>>"nations". It is YOU, the LIAR that thinks that those translations
>>are wrong and that they all should say "race". But YOU are indeed a
>>LIAR, speaking the words of the serpent, your master, who is the
>>Prince of Lies.
> The Greek word "ethnos" is translated as follows by Strong's:
> Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe;
> specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): -
> Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
> So it can be both a "nation" and a "people".
> But what is meant by "people"? RACE, of course.
> The following is an example of its use as "nation":
> John 11:51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that
> year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
> John 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather
> together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
> The "children of God" are the Israelites who were scattered among all
> NATIONS, but this is obviously not the same as the following, where it means
> "people" or "race":
> Joh 18:33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called
> Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?
> Joh 18:34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did
> others tell it thee of me?
> Joh 18:35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief
> priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
> Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom
> were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be
> delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
> Pilate obviously wasn't referring to a country when he said "thine own
> nation". He was simply presuming that Jesus was the same RACE as the jews,
> and Jesus PROVED that He was NOT by reminding Pilate that if He had been a
> jew, the jews certainly wouldn't have been demanding He be crucified.
> 1Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy
> nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who
> hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light
> In this Scripture, "generation" is translated from "genos" which means
> From G1096; "kin" (abstractly or concretely, literally or figuratively,
> individually or collectively): - born, country (-man), diversity,
> generation, kind (-red), nation, offspring, stock.
> So this is clearly a different use of "ethnos" than "nation". The reference
> to "peculiar [ethnos]" must mean "peculiar race".
> RACE, n. [L. radix and radius having the same original. This word coincides
> in origin with rod, ray, radiate, &c.]
> 1. The lineage of a family, or continued series of descendants from a parent
> who is called the stock. A race is the series of descendants indefinitely.
> Thus all mankind are called the race of Adam; the Israelites are of the race
> of Abraham and Jacob. Thus we speak of a race of kings, the race of Clovis
> or Charlemagne; a race of nobles, &c.
> Hence the long race of Alban fathers come.
> 2. A generation; a family of descendants. A race of youthful and unhandled
> 3. A particular breed; as a race of mules; a race of horses; a race of
> The use of the Greek word "ethnos" in this instance is more accurately
> translated as "race" than as "people".
> John Knight
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