 to stimuli, for example by turning towards the light or closing over a fly, but that is hardly the same thing. I find it hard to see what purpose pain could serve for the plant, since they can hardly run away.
People who care about that become fruititarians. People who only eat fruit.
We know that plants aren’t sentient beings. They don’t have that capability. It would be pointless, evolutionarily.
By the way, i’m not a vegetarian because the animals are innocent and treated with cruelty, although that does bother me.
I don’t eat meat because I couldn’t kill meat, and therefore I don’t have a right to be eating it.
I could kill at fish. And a plant. So I am justified in eating it. 
I respect people who hunt for their own food more than I respect almost anything. Its very commendable, and isn’t supporting an evil and wasteful industry.
@iwamoto: wasn’t there a Corn Nuts™ commercial like that a few years back?
fruits, vegetables, same thing. all a fruit or vegetable is is the ovaries of the seeds that come out of it, that grow into a fleshy substance. a sentinent being must comply with several rules: it must get its own nourishment, it must excrete its own waste, it must regulate its internal environment in order to comply with outside forces, it must be able to reproduce on its own and it must have a response to stimuli. aresponse is often expressed by motion, for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun or an animal chasing its prey, but not always.
mtl zack: you’re wrong. A vegetable requires killing the plant, a fruit doesn’t. Most fruit are meant to be eaten anyways.
the word vegetable is a culinary term, not a botanical term. in 1893 the u.s. supreme court made the tomato a vegetable just to support the new tarriff act at the time. however, a tomato is a FRUIT. vegetable is just a culinary term to put on a menu.
Great, well i’m speaking botanically.  Its just allowing ignorance.
Fruititarianism is intended botanically too.
yes yes, tomato, tom- a -to. what it all boils down to is: don’t eat meat.
Mtl Zack: I’m not really sure what you are trying to prove… just throwing wikipedia pages at people is hardly an argument. and unless you happen to be an expert in the field of botanical terminology, it might not be the best idea to start a food fight.
The word vegetable is derived from vegetation.
By the way, if you want to talk to an expert in the field of botanical terminology, or botany, I can call in my father, the man with a Ph.D in botany, as a reference.
so, to awnser my question, zack can’t do without meat because a tomato is a fruit?
@ shockvalue: i learned about this precise argument of fruit vs. vegetable in my civics and law class. we practically spent an entire unit on this subject. im just tossing easy to read articles at people who may or may not understand the terms used in the actual records of that case.
@deliriam: wow, your father is a biologist :o does that make you a biologist as well? my dad is a biologist too. maybe we’re twins seperated at birth.
@iwamoto: this conversation has gone waaaay off topic. i eat meat because thats just what i do. if you’re not happy with it, then do whatever you want, but dont try to impose your beliefs on me. i can believe what i want to believe, just as you can believe what you want to believe.
@zack: Easy to read articles like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Biz_v._United_States?
this is intense. I have been a vegetarian for 7 years. I was a huge meat eater before that. Like, two meals most days contained meat, usually. I never thought I could give it up, but I had been thinking about losing meat for a while, and after watching Michael Moore’s “Roger and Me” I knew I had to stop eating it. So I did.
The best way to go: breatharian.
I no longer eat meat; my diet is no one’s business. I feel fine.
The response that you offer is a somewhat simple response, given without thinking, as seen also in the response to, “Hi, how are you,” “I’m fine, thanks, how are you doing?” In my opinion many folks don’t really give dietary choice a second glance unless they’re either forced to, or because they’ve been confronted with in in some fashion, such as the ethical treatment of animals or wanting to adopt a healthier lifestyle.
Eating meat, however, is a choice, it is a choice that each person has to make on their own, some do it with thought, some do it without thought. But I don’t consider myself a sort of vegetarian police officer, who has the right to go around asking everyone to defend their decision.
Sans anything with a face since 1987, and quite happy and healthy.
i seriously wonder how human meat tastes, i think it would be good if you fry it, but then again, i dont eat meat….
I don’t she meant it in the literal sense.
lmao… I meant in the sexual sense!
hahaha, see, sometimes girls ARE perverts….or well, naughty sounds more women like….
It says it on the back of my car. I love how vague it is.
That may depend on who’s driving the car.
!!!! Iwa! I have a T-rex eating a jesus fish on the back of my car! Its SO CUTE. Its just looking happy and nomming away at it.
:D see, just what i like!!! do you have a picture of it?
damn, it says “moved or deleted”!
iwam really wants to see that trunk!
damn righ peedub, did you see that trunck? sooo cool, the rex, the vegitarian, even the apple logo, incredibly cool!
too bad the rest is password protected, oh well, maybe if it’s not too private and or raunchy she’ll PM me the pass, was that a hint?
I have little dinosaur stickers snuck in on the edges.
We should take all of this to chat, rather than messing up a Q.
ah well, it was my question to begin with, only thing is, i never get an awnser back on campfire, is it because im using safari? shouldnt be a problem right?
Meat qualifies as one of my meals each day. I would never be a successful vegitarian.
Where can I find postfix?
Would vegetarian zookeepers feed the lions tofu, given the opportunity?
Does anyone have a good recipe for vegetarian tacos or enchiladas?
What are the pros and cons with becoming a vegetarian?
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