Re: Joe Frazier as a puncher.
Hard punchers don't need to land a hunder or two of clean punches to knock an opponent down, they have a lot of one-punch knockdowns and knockouts. Frazier doesn't have any, unless he has worn an opponent down with volumes of punches before. Tua, Shavers, Foreman, Liston, Louis, Dempsey and a hundred other heavyweights would have stopped Ali if they landed as many punches as Frazier did against Ali, they wouldn't need even half as many clean punches Frazier landed in that fight to achieve that. Same as they would have knocked out cold all three on the same night, Quarry, Chuvalo and Ellis, if they landed as many punches on them as did Frazier.