Hilarion Spring Equinox 2001
Jill: We are gathered in Nevada City, March 21st, 2001, for the Spring Equinox
channeling of Hilarion. The questions have been submitted via the Internet as
well as from those in attendance here tonight. For further information on books,
tapes, or channelings, contact Jon C. Fox, P.O. Box 2209, Nevada City, California
95959, or visit us on the Internet at hilarion.com .
Hilarion: Yes, greetings to all of you. Yes. This is that energy, being, or vibration
you call Hilarion. Before beginning with questions, looking into various matters
and other important issues, we ask you first to simply welcome a beautiful
emerald light, to imagine it pouring through you, touching you, as if to give you
a warming sensation at the core of your being--into the bones, into the skin
surface, but also as if to touch a deeper part of you than is symbolized simply by
the physical body. Recognize this emerald light as forming a cylinder from
infinitely upwards through you to center of Earth. Let the light be approximately
then filling this cylinder to the width of approximately 100 feet diameter (that is
about 33 meters). As you imagine this light touching you and connecting to
Earth, see that it contains within it the idea of an invitation, a welcoming of your
highest self, your soul, your essence. See also that it has another aspect, the
center of Earth aspect, reminding you of the idea of making things practical,
realizable, an aspect of consciousness to come from deep within you and
somehow be made physical--reality, as you know it--manifested by your
It is in this springtime that the full impact of the shift from form into matter and
from matter into form becomes clearer for so many. It is the time of new
beginnings, the time of new ideas, a breaking forth into the greenness of spring
symbolizing this powerful new energy. It is a time in which the baby animals are
in periods of gestation, conception, or being born; a time in which they are
coming with new eyes, new understanding, new awareness to the Earth, is a
powerful symbol for all to seek the answers to their questions with new eyes, with
a new way of seeing, with the understanding of the wisdom of a small child
rather than the preconceived ideas of an adult or those aspects that have in
some ways blocked you from understanding.
Therefore what we mention tonight is about questions. The whole idea of a
question and its answer we have often stated in the past, in order to fully
understand an answer and you recognize that a question and its answer are
created together, then you must let go of the question. This is difficult at times
because one may obsess about it or hold on to the question, but really another
way of looking at this--these are all different aspects of the combination of
different universal laws, specifically the understanding of Reflection and
Manifestation. It is the idea that the way in which you work through these will
often be as symbolized in a question and its answer but in itself at its essence it is
about you transforming, about you becoming a different person. So really in a
practical sense, it is a matter of asking the right question in order to find the right
This is sometimes much harder than it seems, so usually when a question begins
to show up in your life, something you don't understand, something you want to
know more about, holding the question, refining it, playing with it, is helpful.
Usually as you ask the question you can play with different answers, particularly if
the answers seem to fall into certain categories, certain ways of receiving them,
certain energies. Well then, as you work with different ones you will then have
responses. In many cases a deep response in you as if to say "No, that is not the
answer that I am really looking for. " In other words, the response to that which
might be seen as a personal answer teaches you that the answer inside of you
must be in more than your head--it must also be in your heart.
As you begin to work with these responses and understand this, the questions
changes. It mutates, it shifts into many different aspects of reflection of your life.
It is then the ability within your being to manifest both of these together, the
question and its answer, and gradually it allows you to get beyond the
paradox--because a question and its answer are inherently separated.
Therefore, at the place by which they are one, there is a oneness in your being.
You have often answered questions only to find that they lead you to other
questions. You have often dealt with answers in different ways and found them
not really satisfying because they do lead you into other directions. But once in
a while, there is that sense of rightness, of things falling into place. It is as if the
paradox is resolved. The two aspects of separation no longer are separated.
The question and its answer in that sense, again speaking the language of the
heart, the question and its answer fall in love. They care for each other, they
dance together, they enjoy each other. In this way the oneness is that which
gives you a new expression, a new understanding.
Yes, this in itself may lead to more questions, as inevitably your own growth leads
to more separations within your own being. That is the path that people
take--they separate the consciousness that is to come into a physical body from
the consciousness that manifests in the soul. They separate parts of themselves
in different ways, to experiment, to learn, to grow. Always, however, along such
a pathway, there is a rejoining. The rejoining can be circuitous and complex
and take many lifetimes, or it can be simple and easy when you welcome it.
Understanding, however, that you move in these directions as a larger viewpoint
can let you be a little more patient as you move through these different aspects
of questions and their answers.
What is the question that the animals ask in the time of the vernal equinox?
What is the energy that they are seeking to know? This is a powerful and
beautiful question of essence itself, and contemplating this and tuning into it in
this beautiful time of seasonal change is a powerful meditation in itself. It is a
question about existence--why am I here? What is the nature of this world? All
the way to the very simplest of things--what is that sound? What is that smell?
What is that energy?
When you go out into the world and you see the plants and animals, you see
these energies blooming in profusion in the springtime, you will be stimulated to
ask this question too. You can fall into various answers about this, such as
understanding a plant or an animal by its Latin name or its relationship to the
environment or your past experience with it. But if you ask it from the point of
view of the animal, of the plant, of the energy itself, what you may experience is
a little different, an energy that welcomes the spring, the beauty, the uplifting
energy of the Earth herself, the combination of sun and water and earth and the
way in which all of these in their own ways come forth.
Yes, there are many ways in which all of these interact, but there is a higher
energy, the Air energy, governing all of it because it connects all of this. In some
ways air has been likened to ether, an everfine substance connecting all
energies, all consciousness, all beings. As you understand this interconnectivity,
you then have a greater glimpse as to the nature of your own ability to be here
in the world.
In science, as many things are looked at and discovered to understand their
nature, it is their interaction with other things about which some aspect is known,
appreciated on some consistent level, etc., that data can be gathered. Thus,
scientists study light not by looking at light itself, always however by looking at
light's reaction. In its initial reaction it is of course on the human eye, the way in
which light falling on the eye has certain characteristics. But the characteristics
of color, of intensity, and so on are simply the responses of the eye and the brain
to that which is the light itself. These responses are unique to the individual, and
of course an animal or a plant will have different responses when light falls upon
It is from all of this that study can be made out of more consistent areas of
interest in order to determine more and more about light. And so from this
eventually quantum physics has derived that light has essentially two important
natures, and these natures co-exist. Is this not a symbol about the nature of so
many things in your world, that these two aspects, the separateness symbolized
by the particle existence, the togetherness or interconnectivity symbolized by
the wave nature, are always present in all things, always working in all aspects of
being? Because indeed at its core you are light.
There are many questions about ascension, about becoming light, about
awakening this, yet it is as if in asking the question one would recognize that one
is not light, somehow not allowing oneself to ascend and so on. Where this has
been a conscious choice on your part, you will then be able to make a
conscious choice in another direction if you wish. But most individuals instead
respond to such energies as if they are the victim. They feel separated from a
higher part of their being, and so they are doing everything possible to get back
to it, including getting lots of psychic healings from others who will assist them in
becoming ascended, whereas they are light. They have that highest aspect
deep within their being. It is a matter of letting go of anything that says that you
are not this that can allow you to know it that much better. Again, asking the
right question reveals the right answer not about, then, achieving ascension but
remembering ascension, not about being something you are not, but about
acknowledging that which you are.
In recognizing this, one can examine and work with all kinds of ways of
answering questions, but one must always recognize that to some extent any
answer will be incomplete until there is some aspect of you, some part of your
nature that is a part of this combining. It is back to the way of nature aspect
that must always be brought in, and so much in your society that emphasizes the
particle or separate nature that allows over and over the misconceptions about
how things work in the world. So you have currently a great powerful popular
example in the press, in what is going on throughout your world with this issue of
hoof or foot-and-mouth disease. This is a difficult issue to understand and work
with because there are so many forces at work. Separating them and
understanding them is of some value and it will assist you with your mind, but
from the animals' point of view it is a relatively simple matter. Here again,
though, in studying the answer to the question you cannot really understand the
nature of a disease on its own. It must be seen in the larger context, its
interactivity. And so asking about purpose when it comes to living things,
animate beings, interactive consciousnesses is a sort of open-ended question
that gives you all kinds of answers, and the purpose of bacteria, of virus, of
parasites, of various fungi, plants, animals, working through all of these questions
of purpose reveals a lot of information.
Specifically, one will always notice a relationship between different viruses and
bacteria. Rife himself in the 30's discovered by the use of a very powerful
microscope how each bacteria has within it a virus, and that that virus can as a
result of action upon the bacteria become in itself virulent while the bacteria
dies away. And under the correct conditions, that very virus can then give birth
to the bacteria. Their purpose, however, was not studied by this eminent
scientist. Yet in nature it is so obvious that these organisms are there to clean up,
to change the environment, to break down substances so that life at a higher
vibrational level, that of sentient beings, that of plants, that of people, that of
animals, will then be able to grow.
[Note: More about the scientific work of Royal R. Rife is in Barry Lynes book,
The Cancer Cure That Worked.]
In the forest, as the various aspects of the forest break apart, the bacteria, the
parasites, the viruses break down plant material into their component building
blocks so that they may be utilized to build soil, to enhance, to strengthen.
Specifically, then, looking at the interactions, one would ask the obvious
question, that which is not being asked by most individuals, and that has to do
with how foot-and-mouth disease, how these aspects of difficulty as seen in the
larger context, then reflect to this interaction. That is then, what good is it? What
is its purpose?
You will then understand that the virus itself is connected to the bacteria. The
bacterium involved is streptococcus. This has the capacity to clear various
congestive materials. In a human being it is typically associated with the throat
center. Similarly in animals to some extent. This clearing is necessary when there
is excessive toxic material. Some of the materials that are most toxic would
specifically include mercury, aluminum, and various overheated fats and oils.
[Note: More about fats and oils and our deep need for them in our healing is in Aajonus Vonderplanitz' revolutionary book,
We Want To Live.]
Mercury has been introduced into the animal population in very high levels over
the last few years by increasing use of vaccinations. In addition, various
antibiotics utilizing molds and other materials have introduced small quantities of
mercury. Aluminum has been added to the atmosphere in large amounts by
the use of chemtrails, sometimes called contrails, with a deliberate effort to
reflect some of the difficulties of excessive sunlight reaching the Earth's surface.
Reducing global warming has indeed occurred as a result of these large scale
programs, but unfortunately a poisoning by means of aluminum of the water, of
the air itself, of the soil, of many other aspects of plant and animal physiology
has also occurred.
So it is only natural then that some disease outbreaks that will clear this will be
employed by nature. If foot-and-mouth disease, if this moves properly through
the animal, it will indeed create the cleansing and clearing. If allowed to run its
course, and if the animal is then taken into a more helpful diet, meaning
specifically soil high in minerals, low in toxic materials, used to provide the
grasses upon which the ruminants graze, then within a relatively short time,
typically a matter of two to three months, the animal will move through this
disease and will come out on the other side of it stronger and healthier.
In many cases, however, this is not possible, because instead what happens is a
bacterial infection similar to streptococcus or a related one will show up. Under
such circumstances, the typical vet will vaccinate or utilize various antibiotics
depending on the age of the animal. The young ones get vaccinated and the
older ones get their antibiotics. This, then, creates a vicious cycle whereby the
bacteria has to work that much harder. It reemploys the virus and other viruses
become involved, and the animal gets sicker. Whereas organically raised
animals, those that co-exist with nature, those that are able to properly utilize
and work with the environment, and when they are grown under conditions of
greater peace, attunement to the Earth, the constant recycling and working
with the Earth specifically for pasture to be then highly mineralized, these
animals will actually go beyond health to a much greater more healthful place.
Unfortunately, science does not recognize this simple question. It isn't asking the
right question--in this case, what is the purpose of a virus? What is the purpose of
bacteria? How does it work in animals, people, and so on. A simple question,
yet that which is being ignored. And so at its core, then, as one is able to
contemplate and work with this energy, the results make sense. If, however,
one is to avoid having this virus move through the various ruminant populations,
then the obvious choice of exterminating the animals is the one being taken,
and that which will prevent it to some extent, yet only staves off the inevitable
though, as some other way of cleansing or clearing out excessive use
generation to generation of toxic materials, various ways of polluting the air and
the water, etc., continue with animals, plants, people, and so on. It is seeing the
larger perspective and the way in which bacteria and viruses only play a small
part in this that gives one the bigger answers.
Now, as an animal then is able to develop sufficient immunity to this difficulty,
then it is no longer a problem of a large nature. But there has been a clear
decision on the part of those involved to avoid this, to instead prevent the
spread of the disease in any way possible, even at great cost, and one would
have to ask then, why? What is in it for those involved? You obviously then
recognize all of the aspects of economics falling into play here, where the price
can go up of the animals, where those in positions to prevent significant
numbers of their animals from catching this contagion will then profit from it, and
various animals already slaughtered, kept in storage, etc., will be able to be sold
at higher prices. And on and on it goes. It is always simply by a matter of the
smallest understanding that these silly things go on. Because after all, where
does this set those individuals further down the road? Where does it assist when
indeed their supply runs out? They are simple questions that can be asked over
and over when looking at agriculture, but they are often the questions that are
not asked. Looking at the long term good versus the short term profit.
Understanding all of this, however, has another overlay, and looking into this
from the world's point of view, there is another question that has already been
asked. How good is the fear-based issue associated with bacteria and viruses as
we have implanted it into the consciousness of the planet? The people asking
this question are beings quite high up on the "food chain"--specifically those
working with bringing various aspects of fear-based propaganda, fear-based
energies to people all over your planet. Ultimately, yes, this can be used to
control the population. It can be used to reduce knowledge, compassion,
understanding. It can be used to cause people to separate from each other. It
can be used in ways that you cannot fathom, indeed, how individuals would
want such separation until you ask this other question, why? What is the
purpose? For these individuals, it is to supplement their own identity as the kinds
of people who exert power and control over others. That is the kind of person
that they need to be.
It is such individuals who have great wealth, and want more; who have a lot of
power and responsibility and somehow want more. It doesn't make a lot of
sense when you look at it logically, rationally, but emotionally such beings
indeed have important aspects that they are in perfect resonance with, with
you, with the possibility within you of wanting more power, more energy, more of
different things in the world. Yes, it is tying into the greed part of all beings, and
when you recognize that that is a part of your being--perhaps it is a small one,
perhaps it is not the part that you have allowed very much say in your world as
opposed to these individuals, but at least you acknowledge that it is
present--you will understand a little more of the why of this issue.
And so such individuals will benefit greatly by spreading fear of disease on your
planet, fear of bacteria, and fear of viruses. This will enable them to sell drugs,
as most of these individuals make tremendous profits by selling various
substances of all kinds. Indeed, some of these aspects have worked out very
well for them. For instance, notice the scarcity of peer-review for vaccines that
has already taken place on your planet--these are widely accepted without
any double-blind studies, without any peer-reviewed studies, without any
scientific data to back up why injecting people with mercury and various dead
bacteria is good for them.
Understanding this principle has drawn into question for those at higher levels
how much power is being exerted here. Why? Because of the issue of
genetically-engineered foods. These products, recently introduced, have met
with tremendous resistance in Europe, and some resistance in the United States.
Indeed these difficulties have made those individuals at places higher up
recognize they are going too far too fast with such a program to introduce
various unnatural components into the world as seemingly the savior, as
seemingly the highest benefit to humankind.
And so this was a testing of the waters. Individuals have expressed fear of Mad
Cow disease or bovine encephalitis or various other difficult substances and
diseases. So could this then be continued by something around which all
people who have had any exposure to various forms of agriculture have at least
one past life affiliation or connection? Because, after all, great outbreaks of
hoof-and-mouth disease and other related disease have swept across this
planet, and many of you have experienced this firsthand in various capacities in
your past lives. And so indeed then, this is the new aspect, what makes it
different from the introduction of Mad Cow disease, because this is an old
disease, one that has been with humanity for a long time.
And so the real issue for those involved at a spiritual level is to find the right
questions to ask, to go deeper in the understanding of this, to be able to work
out the issues for oneself without necessarily believing that the only solution to
this is the wholesale slaughtering of thousands or even conceivably into the
millions of animals across your planet. Indeed what do the animals think of this?
The overall thoughtform, the beings themselves, would like to continue in the
world. Most of them would survive the difficulties associated with the virus, and
they would be stronger as a result coming out the other side of it. This is what
they would want, and it is inevitable that it is due to factors outside the
contagion theory that the tendency here will continue, that then the animals
themselves are willing to grow, to take a chance on this. But they are not
interested in being destroyed as a result. They learn nothing from this. They are
not contributing to anyone, because in most cases that which happens to the
carcass--it is simply burned. It is destroyed. It is not allowed even to be as food
or nourishment for anyone.
Therefore, it is here again in this as an example of asking the deeper question in
order to contact the deeper answer. Yet by comparison to the issues which
face you, the way in which coming into this world you have chosen various
aspects of illusion, separation, relationship, working things out in the world and so
on, the issue of diseases, animals, diet, all of these things are quite simple by
comparison. But before we attempt those bigger issues, let us go to this issue of
There are those on your planet who are suggesting that a breatharian lifestyle,
one which does not require food, is possible--taking energy, nourishment,
directly from light itself. We have addressed this extensively in the past, and it is
indeed quite possible. And at the same time we have recommended various
dietary patterns for people that are very healing, helpful, but are not a matter of
attempting to get their nourishment directly from light. Now there are different
ways in order to answer the question. One can understand it in different ways.
But we would always take you back to a deeper issue. It has to do with
individuality, the nature of your own being, your own progress through various
lifetimes. This has formed primarily two paths. One is genetic, that which works
with the energies of your ancestors at a physical level. It is related to your own
DNA, to what your parents ate, and their parents, as Pottenger's cats
experiments detail. The utilization of specific foods for three successive
generations takes its toll on that third generation in ways that relate very much to
what the previous generations consumed. There are many reasons for this
having to do specifically with the depletion of enzymes in the physical bodies of
each of the different beings through the generations. But what is more
important to understand is that it can be corrected. If it is not, however, one will
usually, in working with other diets that don't supply sufficient nourishment,
sufficient enzymes, sufficient fats, one will suffer.
The suffering can be alleviated by increasing the energy, but most individuals
will not be able to work with such energy in its direct fashion for healing
sufficiently. This is obvious when you look at it in a slightly different way. We
have often suggested in the past that answering questions that have to do with
how things turn out in the world--after all what you are looking for here is what
diet is most appropriate for your being--that answering this question comes
sometimes by the old adage "By their fruits so shall ye known them." And so then
as you look at those who have been involved in these diets, how do they look?
What is their health? What is their level of energy? What is their level of strength?
If it is a spiritual aspect you are looking for, engage them in a spiritual
meditation, or work with them on a level that goes beyond the mere mundane.
Note how it feels. But do they have what it takes to remain in the physical body,
to use that body for a time, to be able to understand it and learn its lessons?
After all, you have bodies, and it is not by ignoring them that you are going to
learn from them.
When we ask this question and look at those involved, it is a very easy matter to
recognize that those whose health is suffering are perhaps then personifying
dietary concepts that are not going to be helpful. Those whose physical body
improves, consciousness, ability to concentrate, and ultimately therefore their
meditations improve, perhaps that is the one to be followed. Individuals must
hold such a cold hard light to the energies that they perceive if the answers they
seek are to be simple and practical at the level of "What do I eat or not eat
now?" They are simple practical questions but they must be applied.
When understanding this, you can go deeper into the deeper issue as to what is
spirituality? Many would recognize that spirituality is simply anything that is not
business, and there are many people that really believe that. That is, when they
look into the world at all of the things they are doing they say that this and that
and the other thing has to do with making money, with survival, with business
interrelationships. And so therefore to them, when they begin to look into
anything else, it is indeed spiritual.
And so for such individuals, that is certainly a good start at it. But what it really
relates to is the essence of your being. You are a spirit. You are a being that is
consciousness in its pure vibrational form. It has nothing to do with bodies. It is
not even found in the higher subtle bodies. It is indeed a point of light and
beyond that. It is without dimension. It is a place of pure form. As the form is
then brought into matter, various aspects of it specifically tailored to reflect the
components of the form are then taken on. This is the matter of spiritual
understanding, where you recognize how those reflections of the essence of
your being are then manifested in the world. Therefore, as a result, you can
make various spiritual attunements, work with spiritual energy, understand
spiritual interrelationships, etc. etc., always coming back to the nature of you,
your spirit, your energy, who you are at this core.
Now asking such a question of course takes you way out of individuality
because of that aspect of non-dimensionality, the aspect beyond the
restrictions of dimension. You are God. You are connected on all levels with all
beings. You are energy on many levels. Answers don't come in the three-dimensional world defined by the English language at a purely spiritual level in a
way that will be satisfactory to you. They will only be reflections of the aspects,
symbolically characterized as spirit moves into matter. Therefore, as you begin
to ask these questions about diet--what is a spiritual diet?--you must then again
ask as to the purpose. What is the purpose of having a body? The whole idea is
to experience certain things that are more difficult to experience as pure spirit.
And what are those things? They are certainly beautifully personified by the
aspect of spring: enjoying the beauty around you, in nature; feeling, sensing,
smelling, being a part of these things. You have many wonderful kingdoms that
surround you of very intelligent powerful beings such as the dolphins to remind
you of this. Their sensuality, sexuality, their ability to communicate, many things
indicating that their own capacities for cognition, telepathy, and other aspects
go way beyond that of people. And yet they are here too, in bodies, and they
take full advantage of the sensual side of this to feel, to touch, to know each
So it is also that it is no accident that you have so many nerves in your own
physical body deliberately created in such a way to bring you pleasure, to bring
you pain, to bring you sensation of the physical world. Hence it is also that all
exercises, all aspects of meditation, all ability to increase consciousness is so
much enhanced over and over when you take advantage of the kinesthetic
aspect, some aspect that brings in this sense or quality of feeling, of touching, of
sensation, not because it is inherently better but because you're in a body. And
your body has so many nerves, and all of the nerves interacting in so many
different ways with your brain (which is indeed all of the nerves) always symbolic
of interconnectivity, of awareness of your surroundings, of your environment.
And so then if a diet is that which sustains and strengthens the body, enables
enhanced communication, enhanced ability to know all aspects of the physical
body, the sensual side, the visual side, the auditory side, and of course taste and
smell, well then, is that perhaps a diet that would be more spiritual? Only you
can answer this question for yourself, but again--the purpose. What is the
purpose of eating well, of sustaining and helping the body? Perhaps it is so that
the body can remain here in a place free of disease and difficulty, a place of
greater health? That would be more at neutral. Yet some of the new dietary
principles are showing that after a period of cleansing and clearing, the
potential for the body is one of indeed enhanced attunement, enhanced
sensuality, enhanced vision, enhanced hearing, that which is perhaps even
more than you had when you were a child.
Understanding and working with this principle leads you inevitably back to the
place where once the healing is sufficient, once the dietary transgressions have
been corrected--from past generations, from various insults to the body by
eating those things that are not natural or appropriate, by using those food
substances that are damaging, by contaminations from pollution and so
on--then the next level, moving towards lighter and lighter, foods that personify
and work with light, working with light directly. At such a level, it only makes
sense. But the difference is one does not have to force it--it comes naturally
and easily. And while it is occurring, the health and strength of the body
increases. It does not decrease. Recognizing this will show you much about this.
One question that could be asked is, on average then, how many individuals
are ready for such? And we see very few in the world, very few whose bodies
will actually move to this place of greater youthening, greater strength, greater
energy, greater enhancement of the senses as then such a diet towards less
and less food and more and more light is taken.
This does not mean it is the only path. Of course one can move directly into
these places of light with the body suffering as a result, but achieve greater
attunement, understanding, awareness and other energies. There isn't anything
wrong with that, of course, and there are many who must choose such a path
because they are not so interested in learning the lesson that the body has for
them in the world. But for most people, you have chosen this path, this three-dimensional world, so you can interact in bodies, which brings us to the next
question, about love.
How people may know this, how they may work with it, and how do they know
when it is time to call it quits, to say that this relationship is not working out. It is a
very difficult question to answer because from the guides' point of view, under
most circumstances you are drawn to a person and you work with that
individual one way or another over and over. If you ask the right question, you
get a more interesting answer, not then looking to the future, but first of all
looking to the past. How many times have I worked on this issue, the issue of
relationship with this person? Sometimes if you can open to your answer in a
clear-headed way, an answer will pop in and you will be surprised when it
comes in along the line of "23 lifetimes" or in terms of actual years together "527
years we have been working on this one."
When you start looking from such a point of view, you have perhaps the
perspective that the choosing to go along together or break up within the next
month, the next year, the next decade, in such a large context means very little,
and why would you have chosen to work it out with this person over and over
again unless there was something of value there? And then you begin to ask
the right question, not about knowing whether it is time to change or not, but to
know what it is you came here to do, what is the purpose of this relationship,
what it is that you are trying to work out together, why it is you are then choosing
each other, and how then to bring that in, whatever it is you are choosing, right
now. In other words, recognizing that the 527 years has been but a preamble.
Now let's get to the main course. Now let's do what we came here to do.
Once you start asking such a question, you may be shocked to discover what
happens, as if the guides and helpers all line up in order to bring very powerfully
and quickly into form all of those energies that you are here to work out, and
they may not be something that you're very interested in. They may be
something to do with helping others in the world, or bringing something of your
combined energy together, or allowing something of far greater importance
than you have ever suspected or wondered about before. The possibilities are
endless, but go cautiously into such an issue, remembering that the most difficult
thing about praying for what you want is that sometimes you get it.
So it is also in answering the question as to meaningful work. What is the appropriate way to find right livelihood? You must ask these deeper questions before you approach this issue if you are to go beyond the trap of working out these issues in the world over and over and over. Here again looking into the past: "What have I done in my past lives? Yes, indeed, I have been in social work in various contexts for a long, long time. I have counseled altogether 5,227 individuals about their marriages, about their enterprises, about their children." When will you ever tire of it? Perhaps deeper in your heart you are recognizing the deeper question then--what have I come here to know about right livelihood? What have I come here to know about the doingness as it relates to the nature of my being? After all, you don't take it with you. That is, the money that you earn from this world, though it may seem on the surface to be the important issue, since you are going to use it to pay the rent, or buy food for your pets, or do things in the world, still this energy relates to a much higher capacity of what you do take with you. Because if those actions of right livelihood, of working in the world, have brought you more enlightenment or more understanding, more interaction from others, bringing you to a new understanding about yourself, perhaps you have gained some true value from this.
Therefore, the deeper question must always be asked, and when you hold that
question, again, sometimes you may be confounded by the answer as suddenly
people start showing up in your life offering you jobs to do things that you didn't
think you were interested at all in doing. Only now because you have asked the
question and you have remembered our words, you decide not to say no
immediately, but instead to say, "Well, let me come over and meet some of the
people I'll be working with" only to be astounded to find that these are your soul
mates, these are your kin, the beings that you have come here to work out these
issues with, the ones that you have counseled in the past and have counseled
you, the ones you are here to finally come to the place of deeper
There isn't too much time left on this world for this sort of thing, because science
is advancing at a rather rapid rate towards the capacity to eliminate money on
your planet. This is happening by many different means, and you have many
symbols of this right now where energy shortages are occurring on your planet
while at the same time the development of new energy technologies--so-called free energy techniques--are on the way, and free matter is right behind.
After all, energy and matter are but manifestations of the same thing. Einstein's
great discovery and how it is taught in every grade school, how e=mc2, that
matter and energy are interchangeable. It becomes obvious then that with
new energy techniques, new matter techniques are right behind.
But understanding the deeper symbolism of this, you chose it. You chose the
aspect of work in the world. Why? You chose certain barriers to this, some
talents, some capabilities. Why? Perhaps as a general sort of push in one
direction for you to find certain ways of employment because in this way you will
be more likely to interact with those individuals that you came here to interact
with, to know, to understand, to learn from. "What, Hilarion? You mean not to
get rich?" Well, you know, it is true that there are a few people on your planet for
whom getting rich is the main idea of doing things in the world, but very, very
few. Because, again, you don't take it with you. Such individuals must also have
deep within them a powerful pure philanthropic side in order for this to be the
primary reason that they have come here in the world, so that that money that
they get rich with they will also be able to let go of. And you have some
examples of this in your world. Certain ones currently in incarnation, of course,
whom you may think of, and others for whom various prizes are named, such as
the Pulitzer prize and the Nobel prize and others.
As you understand about these issues, you will gradually reawaken different
components of your being into a place of greater peace about the making of
the money. After all, too much money might be a bit of a distraction. After all, if
you made enough money to retire, you would no longer interact with others. So
again here, the real key is in finding your team, in finding those you will interact
with and so on.
Now of course there are some individuals who are destined to work alone. That
which they are to manifest in the world is that which will only come by solitude,
by their working on these issues by themselves. But here again, that is not the
energy for this time for most people. Most individuals are here to learn, to
interact with others, and to grow as a result. And so the deeper question can
always pop up: How do you know? And so we can answer this by a suggested
meditation. How do you know what is the time to break up a relationship? How
do you know what is the right job? How do you know what to eat for breakfast
this morning? All of these simple questions and complex ones.
But rather than suggest the meditation, we will simply invite you to engage in this
meditation. So for a moment, relax. Recognize a powerful clearing energy all
around you. Imagine a vibration moving through you, up and down very
rapidly; a vibration associated with a very positive loving time. Any aspect to
raise your vibration to feel clearer, more happy, is a very good place to begin.
Then imagine a mirror in front of you. See yourself in the mirror. See your being
in its fullness, the whole body. Then see yourself without clothes on. See yourself
younger. See yourself with different clothes than you would ever normally wear.
See yourself older. Imagine that you have put on a great deal of weight.
Imagine that you have lost a lot of weight. See the body change in all of these
Gradually, as you move through these different stages, it will stabilize. If it does
not immediately, then allow it to stabilize gently on its own. Then allow the idea
that that image, smiling at you, seeing you from the other side of the mirror, now
becomes interested in other activities. Turning away from you, he or she steps
outside of the mirror, right through the mirror into the world. You sit there just as
you are, breathing, relaxed, noticing. And then you see that second image
move out of the mirror and try on some different things. If this is a job that you
are looking at, well then, the second image goes off and tries that, meeting
people perhaps, doing things in the world, answering ads, going on interviews,
learning about different things--whatever way in which you wish to see him or
her doing these things. Notice that as he or she is involved in this, you have
responses in your body. Sometimes there is a sense of coldness, very slight
perhaps in the pit of your stomach or in your feet; sometimes a sense of pressure
or compression, perhaps in your neck or your shoulders. Other times there may
be a sense of warmth, tingling, a sort of expansion or lightness. Just notice.
Similarly, you could allow the second image to try on different relationships, an
old relationship or to find a new one. But as the second image is playing in these
areas, again, you are noticing what is happening in your physical body.
Now, imagine that this ends. The second image returns to the mirror. Perhaps
you could even imagine that you and the second image are merging so that
there is no leftover energy, and the mirror naturally dissipates and disappears.
Then write down your experience. If there was a sense of this expansion,
lightness, warmth, etc. in the time of the image doing certain things, those are
the things to be pursuing now. If there is compression or contraction or coldness,
that is perhaps then the No, that is the thing for the image to tell you about as
not to be done now. Simple meditation, simple exercise, and it can be applied
in so many ways. The key is non-attachment, and it is a way that gives you
different answers. They are not logical answers. You have often exhausted all
the logical routes in order to come to an answer of this nature.
There are so many questions for tonight, but we would like to take a brief pause
here and invite another to speak. Would that be alright?
Osho: It is with a sense of peace that I am to be in your heart. There is a flowing
in your heart. It is symbolized by the blood as it moves through your heart. But
there is another side to this. It is a place in your heart that knows how to love
others, has always known this, will never forget it. It is not born as much of your
body, of the physical heart, as it is of the part of you that has always loved.
Some may ask about forgetting. Where does the love come from? How may I
know it? In the asking is the answer. Those who would ask this are in a place of
forgetting the love of themselves--not the love of another, not the love for
another, but the love as if the ocean currents of life itself. There is not a
forgetting or a remembering in the ocean currents of life itself. In this way it is the
energy of being. It is the flow. It is the way.
In bodies in the world, there are so many symbols, so many distractions. You
cannot feel all of them at once. So you select, and you forget those you have
not selected. A habit pattern develops. But it does not mean that those others
disappear. They are there waiting to be felt, to be discovered. The question is
about the balance of man and woman, male and female, inner and outer,
freedom and responsibility. But those are the trappings of existence. They are
not the nature of your soul. They are not the nature of your life. They are only
the nature of the manifestation of this as you have created it.
When I was alive last in the world, I had the body of a man. There were many
who listened to my words, many who dared to follow my suggestions for an
experiment, for seeing and feeling in new ways. This was a beautiful thing, and it
has created an energy that goes on and on. But in answering the question as to
the balance of male and female, of the understanding of the balance of
freedom and responsibility, of inner and outer--that is forgotten. The experiment
was to know that those things are but the trappings, the symbols of being in a
body. That in the essence, there is no gender. In the essence there is only light.
In the essence there is only love.
If you choose to restrict that love, celebrate your restriction. If you choose to
feel the sadness before you would know that you deserve the love, see that this
is the choice you have made and celebrate your sadness. If you do not do this,
then your revelation and your understanding, which eventually will be yours, in
this life or the next or the next, that revelation will be hollow. But if it is a
revelation that brings in also joy, a sense that this is perfect as you created it, as
you welcomed it, as you wanted it in your dance with others, then you will know
why you chose it. You did not choose it to learn, because you already knew.
You chose it for the joy. You chose it for the experience of the dance.
Remembering this can help you to answer these questions--that inside every
one of you is a body of a man or a woman, even though the body you have
chosen may be male or female. And so these parts of your being are there to
be discovered, to be enjoyed, but also to be sensed, to be celebrated. That is
how you find the answer to such a question about existence. Not by the mind,
but by the heart in its dance.
Hilarion: Yes. Hilarion here again. We thank you, Osho, for your assistance and
willingness to work with the body appropriately. It is always a difficult matter to
make these bridges, yet it is hoped that those who would appreciate the
thoughts and sometimes provocative ideas that this being was able to present
when he was alive will also find that some component of their being re-recognizes that that is a part of their being too, a willingness to strike off in new
directions, to do things perhaps are challenging or not easily done before. We
will pause briefly and then we would like perhaps to address some of the other
[Drinks water] Yes. Hilarion here again. More questions?
Jill: Hilarion, what is the highest and best probable reality possible for us in the
2012-2013 time frame?
Hilarion: There are many possibilities. And it is a good question because in the
way in which you are magnetizing and working with the being that you will be in
this time period, so then do you open the bridging and the energy for it to come
to pass. This is a time in which it is conceivable that many of the actions that
have been previously limited by matter will be released. Thus, you could
imagine some of the powerful and beautiful images projected by Star Trek to be
of value to you: the discovery of space travel, the ability of the Replicator to
reproduce any matter as would need be, the capacity to produce large
amounts of energy in a non-polluting fashion, and the willingness of people of all
races and all creeds to cooperate together, to find a way to balance energies.
Such is an important possibility ahead for many, and it was indeed designed into
the Star Trek mythology for many to recognize this as a more concrete reality.
Another important image to recognize from that time period into humanity is the
whole idea of choice, that choice would be made more upon important
aspects of intercommunication, of love, of caring, rather than the economic
motive, rather than survival. Understanding that those choices must reflect back
to the individual gives you a clue as to what the bridge is that is actually being
created. What is your choice? What is the energy you want to manifest? How
would that which is highest and best in your being be best and most lovingly
shared with other beings? Not an easy question to answer, but it comes back to
joy, to an experience of love, to something personally uplifting and helpful in
your own being, from which you can then realize and make such choices. Is this
Jill: Yes. Does the radio frequency radiation from cellular phones cause or
contribute to brain tumors?
Hilarion: It does to some extent. It is not an easy issue to create because the
whole idea of interacting at high vibrational frequencies with the human brain
does naturally create various difficulties having to do with the essence of the
observer and the nature of the experiment itself. This is why culture studies and
cell studies will repeatedly be inconclusive when working with high frequencies.
The DNA itself is in a state of continuous motion. It is, after all, in a wound spring,
and the oscillations are relating very specifically to life functions and the ability
of DNA to transmit information. This transmitting capability is particularly strong in
the brain, and therefore it can be influenced by various frequencies. When
those frequencies are close to the brain, there can be at times the development
of a vortex. This vortex is nonphysical--it is an etheric one--but it is that which
presages physical difficulties. If this is coordinated with impure diet, particularly
accumulation of fats which have been heated over 104ûF (that is 40ûC) at any
time during their existence, these will tend to accumulate in such vortices. At
the physical level, this will cause stroke, cancer, various other physical difficulties
possible, always leading to the body's ability to somehow correct this if proper
diet is taken. But other assaults on the body are damaging and that which
cause difficulty, so it is in the coordination for the average individual of the
additional use of high frequencies near the brain, that difficulty likely ensues. So
for the average person on the average diet, yes, this is an additional assault and
does create more difficulty.
This is particularly compounded as aluminum is more increasingly distributed
throughout the environment and into the air. Mercury from injections of various
substances, particularly vaccines, make the whole issue that much more
difficult. The result is more metal in the brain which responds to electromagnetic
and magnetic vibrations from the speaker, from the electronics involved. These
can naturally accumulate--various repetitive problems of an electrical current
nature. After all, magnetic fields moving in various conductive materials
compounds the problem and moves those currents in different ways. The brain
itself made up of a network of nerves must work with that electrical current
somehow, and this can be transmitted and released from the brain. But in many
cases with excessive metals contaminating the brain, this is difficult. So you see
that it is a complex matter, but generally other means of communication are
recommended. It is possible to use cell phones for short periods of time when
necessary only and not then bring on all of these difficulties. But obviously some
balanced use is in order. Does this answer the question?
Jill: Yes. What is the likelihood of contact through radiotelescopes such as SETI in
the near future?
Hilarion: It is 100%. Contact has already been made. Various beings have
transmitted energies, and on many levels some of the individuals involved have
suppressed this information. This is very important because the whole program
underway--that which we have mentioned a little bit of with regards to the
economic domination of your planet by a few individuals--this has not been
completed yet, and the ability to work with another civilization, to share
information of various higher technologies and other aspects would indeed stop
such plans from unfolding in the ways that those involved wish them to be.
As long as these programs are centralized, as long as only a few have access to
the important information at the critical times, then such suppression can
continue. It will not last forever though, of course, as various beings will utilize
more and more sophisticated, simpler, less costly technology, particularly
reaching into higher and higher frequency ranges, to be able to establish their
own small-scale receiving stations and be able to receive such information and
In terms of this being outwardly seen, this appears as if to be continually
repressed by many beings. But we see that the whole idea of this bursting forth
somewhere about 2005 is a pretty good probability, that other people will
recognize this and acknowledge the presence of extra terrestrials wishing to
establish positive helpful communications with people, and that this would be of
benefit to many. An interesting experiment has already begun in Germany by a
Dr. Meyl in working with faster than light communication, and such will be
available more and more and is already that which is available on the Internet
and can be understood by others who wish to examine and work with these
forms of higher communication. Further question?
Jill: Does sunspot activity influence Earth events such as declines in the stock
market? Is it possible that man's misqualification of energy is the cause of
Hilarion: No to the first question and yes to the second. That indeed sunspot
activity is influencing many events on the other, but not directly such events as
the stock market or other matters, but rather the whole idea of the sunspot
activity is to increase energy, to bring new ideas and possibilities, to open all
kinds of energies for people to absorb and work with. This is a natural reaction at
times to levels of higher consciousness that interfere in the communication
between the Earth and the Sun. When people are thinking extremely fearful
thoughts on a large level, it does interfere with such natural communication
between these great powerful beings. And so, as a result, to reestablish this, the
Sun may at times need to forcefully create the sunspot activity which creates
various flares, magnetic storms, various ways of bursting through such blockages,
and bring new energies to bear. It is not as if the negative energies of people
have sufficient capacity on their own to create such storms. It is rather that their
influence is an important factor, and why indeed there can be recognized as
correlations between sunspot activity and various human activities. Does this
answer the question?
Jill: Okay. What are some of the misconceptions surrounding the nature kingdom
or nature spirits in regard to competition versus cooperation?
Hilarion: Evolution is seen over and over from the purely Darwinian perspective
of survival of the fittest, but really in its essence it has to do with consciousness,
the shared consciousness of all beings manifesting as a collective, as beings to
work out issues, as to understand each other, for the specific avenue of loving
each other, learning about each other, living together in ways in which that
harmonious living gives way then to deeper and deeper ways of
communication, understanding, and ultimately evolution.
This is happening at the soul level for many beings on your planet, but clearly the
leaders of this on your Earth are the humans. They are the ones that are also in
the place of misconception about the wholeness, about how their actions are
indeed interfering on so many levels with the communication between plants
and animals, with the consequent death of various species, with the destruction,
pollution, and other aspects happening on your planet. Yet here again it is by
the misconception that eventually these things will right themselves because of
competition, because of survival of the fittest. It is really not correct, because a
very powerful motivating factor here is the consciousness itself, the
consciousness of the whole. That, to a large extent, many human beings deny,
are not willing to accept and work with on a conscious powerful level.
It is true that this is the basis of many native, aboriginal, Native American and
other philosophies that are discovered in your world when you look into past
history. But it is with the dawn and the spreading of Western civilization and
other aspects all over your planet that deny these components that this difficulty
At its core, however, reacquainting yourself with the Devic orders, being a part
of nature and feeling their energy, can take you beyond the dichotomy of
cooperation/competition to the level of wholeness that requires both. After all,
if an experiment is to be engaged in in which the answer is not known ahead of
time which will survive better, it only makes sense to bring in different avenues
and let them compete to find of the ways in which these work. But they are not
born out of the idea of separateness winning. They are born out of the idea of
the most effective at the beginning being that which will be shared with all.
And that is the real purpose of competition, that as those aspects are learned,
that evolution is taken, then that is shared with all beings, that all grow as a
Understanding that larger principle--from wholeness it begins, into potential
separation, then back to wholeness--you understand the way in which all of
these things operate and see it for its larger perspective. All of the nature spirits,
all of the Devic orders, know this. They feel it. They recognize the joy in the
competitive spirit of the competition in nature as a dance, as an aspect you
could say of beauty, of enjoyment of the sport of it. But never with the intent of it
being any more than that--only just a game.
So then you have so many parallels to this in your world, of the way in which
aboriginal cultures, Native American cultures, and others, cannot understand
the competitive spirit of professional sports, for instance, that requires that there
be a winner and a loser, and that the loser suffers the agony of defeat, and the
winner the thrill of victory, and this is not to be shared on some level.
So ultimately the misconception is only around essence, and each Deva, each
being knows this essence so well that as you learn them, as you're with them, as
you are engaging with them in a meditative place in nature, that is one of the
important energies they will share with you. And where your life has had
competition, where you have struggled in order to achieve at the expense of
someone else, you will be disturbed by this energy. It will seem at times at its
core to you that which is uncomfortable or difficult because it relates to how you
are seeing and judging yourself. You must forgive yourself under such a
circumstance, and then you will be able to see more clearly into the nature
kingdoms, to be with these beings and understand them for what they are, not
for what you would want them to be or imagine them. Does this answer the
Jill: Okay. In The Work of Byron Katie, we look at our own personal responsibility
and individual empowerment. Is there an essence of relationship, or is
relationship merely the story of each individual?
Hilarion: Relationship is really all there is once you begin to understand this
pattern that shows up over and over. After all, without relationship, there is
simply oneness. Oneness in and of itself has nothing to relate to. Oneness has
nothing to become, nothing to change into, nothing to learn. When oneness is
able to create multiples of itself, and this is mirrored by the fractality of the
universe into all the multiple relationships and all the beings--the plants, the
animals, the aspects of that which is inanimate and animate matter, various
aspects of relationships between people, on and on it goes--you could say that
oneness went a little too far. But understanding this issue is to recognize that at
its core, from these relationships, there is a learning, there is an enjoyment, there
is a greater whole that comes from it.
It is quite correct to recognize, however, that it is in the stories about these
relationships, the drawing of conclusions around this, that one has so often gone
astray, come to a place of absolute rules about this or that, or even underlying
assumptions as to this should be or that should be, as if to say that the story is in
itself more important than the interrelatedness of all of the beings and all that
they have to share. The story is important. It is a means by which the message is
conveyed. It is a means by which the understanding is shared. But after the
sharing has taken place, it is time to let go of the story, to find a new one, and to
in this way greater understand the interrelationship itself.
Always however, there will be a path back to oneness, and in that oneness what
has been gained from the separation will be shared without the story. This is
difficult to speak of, of course, because speaking is a story. But you understand
it in your heart as the feeling of union in the moment of orgasm, in the moment
of connectedness, in the moment of exaltation, in the moment of Aha. All of
these and other important experiences are beyond story. Yes a story got you
there, but how often have you noticed that when you use the same story, you
don't get there again?
And that is always a reminder that it is not about the story, but rather in the
interrelatedness itself that you find what you are looking for. Does this answer
Jill: Yes. Why is Harry Potter capturing the imagination of young and old at the
massive clip it is? What is underneath these wonderful stories?
Hilarion: It is obvious when you understand so much of what is happening in your
world appears to be governed by these rules: of science, of law, of economics,
of so many things that are overt and understandable. Yet the whole idea of the
hidden reality coexisting alongside that of the overt reality, that of the underlying
energies, are romantic and wonderful notions. And they are present. It is as if
the ancient notions of the Atlantean sciences, the Day science and the Night
science, are personified in this way, because as you reveal and understand, of
course Harry Potter's world, the magical world, has its own rules, its own
regulations. They are very different, but still they are there.
It is in the imaginative capacity to recognize the blending of these two worlds
that such an important reminder of the ancient Atlantean ideals and
understanding comes forth. And a reminder that many possibilities that have
been overlooked are available, that the magical understanding within one's
own consciousness is an awakening of the child within you, of seeing things in a
whole new light, of seeing ways in which you had never conceived of how
something could occur, that it can occur quite easily and in such a matter of
fact and easy way, once you have recognized that magic is afoot.
Understanding this is a powerful energy, because science in itself seeks to
explain and understand, but need not take out the awesomeness, the
revelation, the wonder, but rather can allow individuals to discover it if they look
deeper, if they use the scientific world as a springboard for deeper
In the meantime, though, cultivating an attitude that invites miracles, invites
magic, invites a shift, this is a beautiful and wonderful thing. So it isn't just that in
Rowling's work is an inspiration for your own identification, your own magical
creativity, your own imagination. It is also an avenue for your guides and
helpers. So when you read it, they gather around you, and they touch you
gently, and they feed you energy, and they say to you "Yes, there are more
things in life than you thought possible if you will but open to them." In this way it
is a symbolic bridge to the guide energies, to the energies of seeing things in a
new light, in a new way. Does this answer your question?
Jill: Yes. Would it be possible to hear more on the subject of love from Athena?
Athena: You have asked again to explore and look into that which is the
motivating factor in your nature. The love in your heart, the love in your energy,
the love in your body is but a tiny reflection of another energy. Love has been
described at times as the glue which connects so many things together, and
that it is. Yet what is it that you are connected to by an energy of this nature?
The answer is unfathomable in human terms. It is beyond that which you have
acknowledgement of in your day-to-day life. It is why you are attracted to
relationship as if there is a hope that by opening trustingly, lovingly, somehow
willingly, more of the nature of that energy will be known. We are not using the
word lovingly here in a redundant context. It is the energy itself that as you
open to, you receive more of. Why? Because love itself wants to be. This is hard
to understand, that love would have an intrinsic intelligence, an awareness or
an energy. In a sense it does, however, because it always is there, showing you
the interconnectedness, the awareness of how you are connected to so many.
Yet knowing this, seeing it, understanding it is useless. It means nothing. It is in
your heart's willingness to play that the answer comes, that when you are able
to feel the energy, to touch it in your heart, to feel it as if bubbling up through
your body, to feel it moving somehow beyond your skin, beyond your bones, in
that light between you and another, a willingness to feel that energy. The best
way to answer a question about love is not by words, or even by sounds, but by
opening to the love itself. By trickery, by playfulness, by allowing. So for a
moment, focus your attention on someone that you love. Pour your energy into
that person and feel that change. Then let that energy come back to you.
Does it have a sound? Does it have a characteristic, a taste, a feeling?
When your guides feel that love with you, sometimes they make sounds. They
are not the same sort of sounds that you hear, such as the moans of pleasure or
"Ahhh," but they are the universal sounds, the sounds of the spheres, the sounds
of the stars. Sometimes they sounds like wwhhhhhhhhhhh. And sometimes like
[howling]. Yet what these are sounds of are the movements of love through the
cosmos, through the planets, through the comets, through the Earth. You have
this capacity too, because as you touch the love in others, as you feel it and
awaken it in yourself, so also do you see and feel and know the love that the
worlds, the universe, is there to nourish in you.
This is a much more cosmic answer to the question about love in a practical
way between two people, but it is why you return to it. So if you can remember
to open to this, it will make it that much more pleasurable, that much more
repeatable, that much more trustable and knowable.
Hilarion: Yes. Hilarion here again. We thank you, Athena, for your words, sounds,
and assistance with the vehicle and with making the idea of this a little more
tangible. There is perhaps enough energy for another but it is going to be
necessary to wind it down pretty soon.
Jill: Can you briefly comment on Chiron?
Hilarion: No. Chiron is a complex asteroid. It has many symbols. But in brief, it
must be perceived that with the discovery of Uranus, the whole idea of surprise,
new energies, and other aspects was uncovered in a more conscious way. Yet
the idea at a spiritual level of such sudden change, awakening, enlightenment,
this more clearly characterizes Chiron.
There are many ways in which it can be understood, of course. Such an energy
as it moves into form and an individual is able to misuse it or misunderstand it or
be tortured by it or changed by it. But always it is to be perceived at its core as a
clearly spiritual energy, an energy that encourages a being to cut to their core,
to understand the nature of who they are, and reveal this, work with it somehow
or have great difficulty in resisting it. This is in a sense combining some of the
aspects of both Uranus and Pluto in the way in which Chiron works. But it always
must be seen that it is about this spiritual essence, and the way in which this
manifests for the individual. We hope this is of some value, though brief.
Jill: Thank you. We've come to the end of our questions, so you can give us a
Hilarion: We are grateful to the idea of questions and answers, and the way in
which you are encouraged over and over to ask deeper and deeper questions
at the level by which you will eventually let go of the whole idea of questions
and answers Finding that indeed they are one within your being enables you at
times to understand better than formulating them as separate. Yet going
beyond that, we take you to the oneness now, reminding you of the clear
light--a beautiful emerald light--to be welcomed, to be breathed. But also to
have a kinesthetic quality, a brushing, warming, vibrating sensation. Inhale the
light. Let it move through you, then let it go easily, lovingly, down to Mother
Earth. See that she responds, an energy bubbling up from her into your body.
And then we ask you to share this as an energy, as a sound, as a gentle OM out
loud. Good bye.
More about fats and oils and our deep need for them in our healing: Aajonus Vonderplanitz' revolutionary book,
We Want To Live .
[Note: More about the scientific work of Royal R. Rife is in Barry Lynes book,
The Cancer Cure That Worked.]
More about the nonphysical beings who co-exist with us:
Projections of the Consciousness and other books by Dr. Waldo Vieira.
For more information about Byron Katie, visit her web pages
at The Work .
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