Hidden Valley seems to be the most honest of the Pa. resorts in saying that the bottom number is 14 inches. They still have bundles of natural snow, though, and the skiing is great. The problem is they started closing early in the evening so the hometown folks have a hard time getting there after school and work. We hope this doesn't mean they'll just figure the Pittsburghers have quit and decide to shut down altogether long before the snow runs out. Gotta make a profit, but remember the faithful. Once again, thanks for ditching (mostly) the 80s music.