Hi Rad and Group,
Thanks for your contributions and for waitingQueen Elizabeth I
“I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king”
“Ye may have a greater prince, but ye shall never have a more loving prince.”
3rd stage consensus
Pluto in 1st House in Aquarius, ruler Uranus in 7th in Cancer, also ruler of SN in 2nd house in Aquarius. PPP in Leo in 7th hose, ruler Sun in 8th house in Virgo; NN in 8th house in Leo.Pluto in 1st house in Aquarius
: The Soul has initiated a new evolutionary cycle, with experimental stages in former lives. With an instinctive feeling of special destiny, it has a strong need and sense of freedom and independence in its process of individual self-discovering; and clearly within the consensus paradigm with regard to society needs and aims, an advanced process of deconditioning in individuality aspects is ongoing:” I regret the unhappiness of princes who are slaves to forms and fettered by caution.”
Liberation from crystallized forms of self definition according to society has already been learned in prior lives. Burying the past is part of the evolutionary intention. (Pluto opposite Saturn, Saturn NP conjunct Pluto’s ruler; PPP conjunct N Saturn and N Vesta).Nevertheless, “The past cannot be cured” (SN Chiron trine NN, sextile SN and inconjunct Sun, Chiron conjunct Neptune opposite Venus, Moon and 4th house ruler).The emotional and physical confrontations in the first part of her life were intended to promote understanding and awareness of where she and others come from.
Her fidelity and fundamental identity was with herself. “My Lords, do whatever you wish. As for me, I shall do no otherwise than pleases me.” “I will never be by violence constrained to do anything.”
The evolutionary intention in this lifetime and before was to discover something unique in itself, which created a process of continuous becoming. However, Pluto’s security needs based on which is familiar, as well as the need to know “why” before acting or actualizing a desire still creates identity conflicts.
Evolution requires that this intense need of independence and freedom becomes balanced with the need of relationship, to understand that both are relevant.
The Soul has already been a solitary, and in this lifetime has achieved some balance having the courage to be a group of one as well as intensely participating and devoting to social, public relationships and life.
She was able to link her individual goal with her society’s goal, and with a socialized reason to exist.
The Soul already was a clever and wise leader but it’s abuse of power created trauma to other people (Pluto in 1st house opposite Saturn conjunct Uranus in 7th house, SN inconjunct Saturn conjunct Uranus), this abuse of power and trauma could also be exerted in intimate relationships (Saturn conjunct Uranus square Mercury, 5th house ruler, 5th house Mars opposite Jupiter in Sag).
In any case, natural guilt resides in the Soul and it’s open, equilibrated and careful government as well as her refusal to be in a relationship in which she couldn’t be with a full hearth reflect that the necessary lessons were in an ongoing process of learning.
In an epoch in which public life and power was interdicted to women, Elizabeth exerted a real power by her own right. Her access to the throne was hereditary, but her actual rulership and acknowledgment was owned by her courage, decision, cleverness, self reliance and fidelity to her consciousness.
She was without doubt, a female ruler accepted by her contemporaries because of her exceptional qualities; they condoned the individual, not the concept of female majesty.
Then she had to adapt to that epochal view (she also shared some of this patterns), so she said:” I have the heart of a man, not a woman, and I am not afraid of anything.” But she had not; Anne Boleyn, her mother, had said that “Poets and women are always free with their hearts, are they not?”, and Elizabeth remained always free and true in her heart (Sun square Jupiter in Sag in 12th conjunct Lilith, SN Jupiter, Sn Vesta, Sn Uranus and Astraea in 11th house)
She was free and able to actualize and manifest her intellectual capacities
'Her mind has no womanly weakness’, 'her perseverance is equal to that of a man' wrote approvingly Roger Ascham, her distinguished tutor. And later, 'She readeth more Greek every day, than some Prebendaries of this Church do in a whole week.' And so she did; Elizabeth's love of scholarship never faltered and, in an age when women were considered inferior to men, she was a glorious exception. (Venus in Libra in 9th house trine Pluto in Aquarius; Mercury in Libra in 9th house trine its ruled Mars in Gemini in 5th house conjunct Ceres , and sextile Jupiter in Sag; Jupiter trine NN in 8th house; Metis opposition Pluto and conjunct Ascendant ruler Saturn; Sophia in 8th house trine Moon in 3rd and square Mars).
She was also able to use her feminine wisdom and understanding in leading her own life and her reign (Sun in Virgo square Jupiter in Sag conjunct Lilith
, ruled by Mercury in Libra in 9th house ruled by Venus
in 9th house Libra, square Pallas
in Gemini in 6h house, sextile Urania
in Scorpio in 10th house conjunct SN Metis. Pallas
in Gemini in 6th house inconjunct Pluto, trine SN, sextile NN and opposite Jupiter. Jupiter conjunct Lilith
and opposite Pallas
is BP novile Pluto. Metis
in 2º26’ Leo FP opposite Pluto, LQP square Moon, sextile Venus, inconjunct SN Sophia
that is conjunct SN, trine Amazone
conjunct Neptune, conjunct SN Vesta, Saturn and Neptune, opposition Juno
conjunct Ascendant and SN Saturn and Pluto,).
She manifested will and courage to be different and innovative, to walk alone finding her leadership capacities, being a living model for others to do the same.
Here may reside the admiration she inspired in poets and thinkers, who find her ‘unique’, that her one-ness staggers the universe:
I weepe for ioy to see the Sunne looke old,
To see the Moone mad at her often change,
To see the stares only by night to shine,
Whilst you are still bright, still one, still diuine. . .
(Thomas Dekker, Old Fortunatus)
It was said that she hasn’t directly encouraged or supported culture, however art and science flourished during her reign, may be the innovative and free personal attitude and social climate she allowed, was the “culture broth” for that.
Being able to become aware of the foundations and nature of its desires and why and how this desires determine its reality, she could help others to do the same. (Pluto 10th house ruler in 1st, Mars in 5th in Gemini sesquisquare Pluto and conjunct Vesta and Pallas in 6th, Sun in Virgo in 8th house). Given its former experience the Soul had the ability to understand the group’s needs and promoting their development with a future’s vision.
With PPP in 7th house in Leo
the Soul is learning to involve in relationships in equality, learning to give instead of receiving, and to listen to the other, but assuming command of its destiny, actualizing its goals, future and ideas about itself, leading ideas into action.
In order to do it she needed to minimize her security needs and learning to not waiting that others support her goals and strategies.
The problems she had during childhood were intended to teach her not having her needs met by another person in order to avoid projections and learning lessons of equality, listening and giving, as well as awareness of intentions, motivations and other’s needs. They were also an opportunity to actualize the evolutionary need of developing objectivity and detachment from relationships that prevent growing.
She needed to overcome the group and individual’s impact in order to deepen the consciousness of her own individuality. She learned and was able to affirm her individual purpose and relate it to a social relevant need.
Emotional shocks, abandon and rejection learned her who is really a friend and who is not :“From mine enemy let me defend myself; from a pretensed friend, good lord deliver me.” “Where minds differ and opinions swerve there is scant a friend in that company”. “Do not tell secrets to those whose faith and silence you have not already tested.”
She learned that her power resided in being different and that she had the inherent power to act as an instrument of a renewing and creative change. This metamorphosis affirmed her self reliance and allowed to clearly understand who she was and actualizing her creative purpose.SN in 2nd house in Aquarius
: The innate sense of self-sufficiency and self reliance was developed as a way to actualize the Soul’s desires and evolutionary intentions of independence, freedom and equality in relationships and a clear and unconditioned individuality (ruler Uranus in 7th NP conjunct Saturn).
The Soul has needed to seclude itself in former lives in order to learn to identify its individual needs, values and capacities, and in the current life it feels attracted to withdrawal in order to interiorize its consciousness focus (Vesta trine SN and sextile NN in 8th house in Leo), and discover inside its values and needs.
Firmly rooted in itself the Soul has learned to identify its essence as different from the phenomenal circumstances and external conditionings.
I too see the Queen in the cusp from 3rd consensus to 1st individuated in her values identification, because I believe that in this lifetime she has learned to identify with the personal resources that create the means for individual independence. However in a social plane she focused more in material values as a vehicle for independence, but nevertheless the evolutionary intention led to confrontations in order to reveal her values system limitations.
I wonder if in former lives the Soul could be imprisoned because of violations to natural other’s rights in order to obtain material wealth and created trauma to others because of that (SN in 2nd inconjunct Saturn conjunct SN ruler Uranus in 7th, Saturn inconjunct Jupiter in Sag in 12th, Jupiter opposite Mars in 5th house Gemini, Mars sesquiquadrate Pluto in 1st).NN in 8th house in Leo
has created the need, and the means, to unite with other persons in order to exert her power and actualizing the evolutionary PPP intentions. Aware of it she supported on a Council advice,( the “frog” was forced out of the well); this way she created the possibility of a metamorphosis allowing the emergence of a new way to relate others and to reality but fundamentally with herself, becoming aware of the limitations related to her values, needs and self image (Moon in Taurus inconjunct Venus, sesquisquare Sun and square Pluto).
She was learning to unite to others without depending on them, this way actualizing the evolutionary intentions related to 7th house PP by means of 8th house Leo NN.
It looks like she was afraid of not being able to do it in marriage.
Elizabeth I was a religious pragmatist (Venus in 9th house and its ruler conjunct Sun in Virgo in 8th house, inconjunct Moon in Taurus in 3rd house; Mars in Gemini in 5th house trine Mercury in 9th)
She had a clear discrimination sense (“Those who appear the most sanctified are the worst”) united to a practical understanding and wisdom, and she actualized her purpose of throwing off illusions and delusions in order to exert power in a fair way. (9th house ruler Venus conjunct Sun in Virgo and sextile Metis, SN Venus and Mars in Libra; Sun conjunct Venus opposite Neptune).
After the power problems related to religion with her sister she adopted a protestant cult but accepting in it elements of Catholicism ( Sun in 8th house opposition Neptune sesquisquare Moon square Pluto and ruled by Venus in 9th house), establishing an English Protestant Church of which she became the Supreme Governor .
She was more moderate and open than her father and half siblings, she did not persecute Catholics with conviction. (Venus in Libra, also SN Venus and Mars in Libra, Mercury in 9th house sextile Jupiter in Sag, Astraea in 11th house in Sag conjunct Jupiter and biseptile Neptune).
JUSTICE – ASTRAEA
The Virgin Queen was named by the poets as Gloriana, Belphoebe (alluding to Artemis) and Astraea, virgin goddess of Justice.
In her chart, asteroid Astraea is in 16º Sag in 11th house conjunct Jupiter, SN Vesta and Uranus, Lilith and SN Jupiter; semisquare Pluto; opposite Mars, Vesta and Pallas; square Sun,; trine R.L. and SN Chiron; inconjunct Uranus and Saturn and sextile Mercury
“In Greek mythology, Astraea or AstreaS (star-maiden") was a daughter of Zeus and Themis or of Eos and Astraeus. She and her mother were both personifications of justice, though Astraea was also associated with innocence and purity. She is always associated with the Greek Goddess of justice, Dike, who used to live on Earth but left, sickened by human greed.
Astraea, the celestial virgin, was the last of the immortals to live with humans during Golden Age the old Greek religion's five deteriorating Ages of Man. According to Ovid, Astraea abandoned the earth during the Iron Age. Fleeing from the new wickedness of humanity, she ascended to heaven to become the constellation Virgo; the scales of justice she carried became the nearby constellation Libra. . .
According to legend, Astraea will one day come back to Earth, bringing with her the return of the utopian Golden Age of which she was the ambassador.” Wikipedia).
Queen Elizabeth became poetically identified in literature with the celestial virgin as the virgin Queen reigning over a new Golden Age.
In Hymns to Astraea (1599) John Davies characterized Gloriana’s rule as captivating her subjects with an authority based on honor and “straight rule”
B y this straight Rule she rectifies
E ach thought that in her hart doth rise;
T his is her clearer true mirror,
H er looking glass, wherein she spies
A ll forms of Truth and Error
She could have been a feminine leader in matriarchal times that exerted power with justice and then was persecuted and imprisoned in patriarchal vandalic times (Astraea conjunct Jupiter in Sag conjunct Lilith and SN Jupiter, SN Vesta and Uranus; semisquare Pluto and opposite Mars; inconjunct Saturn conjunct Uranus, novile DML).
The Grand Trine with NN in 8th house and RL in Aries conjunct SN Chiron reflects the intention of reparation of these leadership wounds, as well as the Soul’s power abuses, in a just and fair exercise of power and cutting away false patriarchal roles and distortions and reclaiming its natural healthy expression.THE VIRGIN QUEEN
Thus, sacred Virgin, Muse of chastity,
This difference is betwixt the Moone and thee:
Shee shines by Night, but thou by Day do’st shine:
Shee monthly changeth; thou dost nere decline:
Yet neither Sun, nor Moone, thou canst be named,
Because thy light hath both their beauties shamed:
Then, since an heavenly Name doth thee befall,
Thou Virgo art ( if any sine at all)
Richard Banfield, Cynthia,(1595)
I was trying to correlate virginity in her life and chart according to the two meanings of this concept, which apparently were present in Queen Elizabeth’s Soul and epochal spirit.
The classical concept of virginity is unmarried, and the virgin goddesses (with which she was associated by the poets, and that her asteroids reflect) refer to the aspect/s of the feminine soul that is “whole in itself”, not needing relationships to be, that doesn’t belong to anyone; that Soul’s aspect that follows its own internal values and truth. (Renaissance’s art and thought was a return to classical concepts).
In a Christian sense virginity means chastity.
It seems that she was playing with this double sense when referring to herself as a virgin, and with regard to her image (Moon in 3rd house, Vesta in Gemini conjunct Pallas).
Both concepts are interrelated in her chart.
With Venus in Libra, and SN of Venus and Mars balsamic conjunct in Libra, the Soul has already been learning to balance its need for independence with the need to be in relationship, and strives toward role equality and interchangeability. It has already desired to unite the inner male and female through sexual role equality, and has been learning to honor its own needs, not just the needs of the partner.
The Soul has tried to embrace Aries polarity, but wounds and trauma remained related to patriarchal violence and repression (Venus opposite Chiron conjunct Amazone in Aries, which is T- square Juno in Cap conj. Ascendant and SN Saturn and Pluto opposite Uranus conjunct Saturn in 7th house)
In this lifetime the Soul was still balancing its inner male/female embracing Aries polarity and integrating it through Resolution Lilith.
In addition, Venus/Mars FQP phase correlates with the need to establish and make real the new patterns, but at the same time the fear of sliding back into old patterns seems to have been very intense; the Soul strives to complete its resolution in this secondary life before the trine.
On the other hand, Venus DP trine Pluto, 4º separative, reflects that the ongoing process of socialization of the evolutionary purpose is advanced and she clearly understands how society works, and how to establish her individualized social purpose within it without provoking reactions because of society’s feeling of challenge or threat.
This allowed her to use the double meaning of virginity, or to referring to her virginity instead of celibacy. This duality seems also reflect the cusp between consensus and individuated stage, she actualized her self-completeness (individuated trait) but presented it under the manifestation of the chastity that the social consensus valuated.
In any case, bringing the prescription of feminine virtue into the political arena, literally and metaphorically, was particularly problematic for the feminine ruler
In Elizabeth’s time female “virginity” was in high valuation. In Renaissance, men have attempted to construct women gender as “chaste, silent and obedient”. Silent an obedient was she not, however studies on gender in her epoch, based on her pictures, found that “she beareth two “persons”, the one of a most royal Queene or Empresse, the other of a vertuos and beautiful Lady”
Young women were advised that “a virtuous demeanour & honest behaviour, would be a more sightier ornament “, and women must cultivate and present a spiritual face. In the light of these stringent and moral discourses, Elizabeth’s self presentation as the ‘ornament of her age’ required a delicate balance (Venus in Libra ruler 4th house and Moon in 3rd) designed both to dazzle her populace with the pomp considered essential to a Renaissance monarch, and to reassure them of her feminine virtue and wisdom.
Elizabeth found a way to synthesize both aspects of virginity (at least in her public image): supported in her “chastity” she was able to exert her right to not marry as her range and function required, and uniting in this sense feminine wholeness with “masculine” rights and authority.
Her identity could be balanced between public and private, she had the power and ability to understand how society works and how to establish her own individualized social purpose within it as well as actualizing her special destiny of a higher individualized nature for which the Soul created “fated “events.(Venus in Libra in 9th house sextile Metis , ruler 4th house DP trine Pluto in 1st house and ruler 10th , Venus biseptile Vesta).
The FP phase inconjunct between her Moon in 3rd house and its ruler Venus in Libra in 9th house contributed to the clarification and awareness of social limitations, of what society required from her in order to express the Soul’s social purpose; intelligent social humility changed operation forms and could purify prior power abuses (Moon FP inconjunct Venus, and FQP square Pluto that is opposite Saturn ruled by Moon). Virginity as wholeness
Lilith in Sag conjunct SN Vesta in 11th house conjunct SN Uranus and Astraea inconjunct Saturn in 7th house reflect that the Soul is picking up its original natural femininity not dependent from men or patriarchal patterns.
In addition, “In [Vesta’s] original nature. . .Being a virgin meant that she was whole and complete unto herself , self-contained, self possessed, and self fulfilled. A virgin, therefore, was not barren, but especially fertile as in virgin forest that has not been violated or depleted.” However, “When Vesta is stressfully aspected. . . Alienation may be experienced until the individual learns to manifest a healthy focus on self and an ability to stand alone, when appropriate, with a sense of inner strength” (Demetra George, pp. 128/129).
There is a Grand Cross formed by SN Vesta conjunct its ruler Jupiter , SN Jupiter, and Lilith opposite Vesta squaring Sun opposite Neptune conjunct Amazone and Chiron conjunct R.L. Dedication to work and sacrifice
“I have already joined myself in marriage to a husband, namely the kingdom of England.”
Vesta in 6th house suggests a sense of self related to dedication to work, and to efficient functioning. This focus in the task, in service, implies the need to withdraw one’s attention from other areas of life, and the sacrifices needed in order to follow the self-imposed path (Vesta square Neptune sextile NN in Leo in 8th house).This sacrifices frequently include giving up family, children, etc.
In addition, with Vesta conjunct Mars which is sesquiquadrate FQP Pluto, its concentration power is focused in aligning the ego with the social environment in order to make real the evolutionary patterns the Soul intended at the NP conjunction.
In addition, asteroid Artemis is in 0º 2’ Leo in 7th house opposite Pluto, square Moon and semisextile Pallas and Vesta in 6th house and conjunct Metis, and when Artemis archetype is strong in a feminine psyche woman’s withdraw from relationships in order to attain some individual goal is frequently required. Artemis inconjunct SN and SN Sophia suggests a similar crisis in former lives.Fear of intimacy and commitment
Vesta also shows her emotional problems related to father-mother problems and attitudes.
With Vesta square Sun in 8th house, the inner fear and lack of trust is projected outward, and the father’s behavior with women becomes a hook to the soul’s projection onto men, with a fear of intimacy and commitment.
Social humiliation as reaction to the willful assertion of the ego is needed in this phase and is reflected in 6th house Vesta’s conjunction Mars in 5th house (individual ego as child) square Sun (father, and other masculine figures as Seymour) and semisquare Moon. Moon LQP septile Uranus conjunct Saturn in 7th house correlates with trauma and shame for her mother’s execution accused of witchcraft (Moon opposite DML)because her father needed a male heir, and her being denied acknowledgment as legitimate daughter, having been considered bastard because her parent’s marriage was not acknowledged, and because she was a girl. As her brave and courageous mother - Anne Boleyn - said: “If I gave the King a son, he would not be a bastard”.
Vesta balsamic semisquare Moon reflects alienation from emotional needs (also Saturn conjunct Uranus in Cancer) and a consequent fear of intimacy and commitment to family ties, which hinder the possibility of an emotional union, which evolution requires. The balsamic semisquare also reflects the crisis based on the accelerated mutation of the personal and cultural past, and on a conflict between desires and needs. While required to fulfill her duties, she wants to withdraw in order to become aware of the new seeds or impulses relative to a new evolutionary cycle of development. “The key is to do both, and to follow these contrasting rhythms as best as possible when they occur. “(JWG) She did both, her way, as always.
There is an overlapping between a balsamic phase and new cycle of relationships and sexual values in SN Venus and Mars balsamic conjunction, Mars balsamic conjunct Vesta, and Saturn NP conjunction Uranus , 2nd house ruler , in 7th house in Cancer.
It was said that Elizabeth had a dim view of romantic love based on her father’s behavior with women, and that is seen in her T-square Venus opposite Neptune conjunct Chiron square Juno conjunct Ascendant in Cap conjunct SN Saturn and Pluto, also in her SN Venus and Mars balsamic conjunction in Libra inconjunct Neptune conjunct Chiron.
In addition, Juno opposite Uranus conjunct Saturn also reflects conflicts between a need for personal freedom and relationship demands, as well as fears of confinement and restrictions based on past emotional trauma and repression. The Soul is throwing off these patterns of repression and alienation in order to achieve a committed relationship in which its individuality could be acknowledged and supported while maintaining a loving bond. It was not possible in this life.Sexual problems as possible cause of celibacy
The Soul has already lived a natural, free sexuality that was repressed, persecuted and condemned by manmade patriarchal laws (SN in 2nd house in Aquarius, inconjunct Uranus conjunct Saturn and SN Venus and Mars in Libra in 9th opposite Chiron SN in Aries; Uranus SN conjunct Vesta in Sag in 11th, which is conjunct Lilith in Sag and trine R.L. in Aries)
I wonder if the Soul was victim of the cruel practices that occurred during the transition from matriarchy to patriarchy, even a slow ant tortuous live burial for having broken the vow of chastity.( Vesta opposition Lilith conjunct Jupiter in Sag, sesquiquadrate DML in Scorpio in 9th house, DML sextile SN Pluto and Saturn conjunct Juno and semisquare Lilith.)
All this may be cause of deep and intensified sexual fear.
In addition, Venus opposition Pluto suggests difficulties with the “dark” aspects of relationships, as passion and sexuality, as well as a need of throwing off violence, competence and power struggles in relationships, whose wounds are also reflected in the T-square between Chiron and Juno in Cap conjunct Ascendant and SN Saturn and Pluto opposite Uranus ( SN and 2nd house ruler)conjunct Saturn.
Another cause is learned guilt
for having affirmed the Soul’s truth and self –reliance (Vesta in 6th house opposite Lilith in Sag inconjunct DML opposite Moon in Taurus), as well as trauma and guilt related to sexuality (Moon trine and DML sextile Juno in Cap conjunct SN Saturn and Pluto and opposite Uranus).Sexual abuse
, in former lives and when a teen ager could also create sexual problems. (Mars in 5th house sesquisquare Pluto, Uranus, ruler 2nd house inconjunct SN, Persephone in Scorpio inconjunct Vesta, square SN, DML in Scorpio opposite Moon in Taurus).
When she was 14 years old, Thomas Seymour, Katharine Parr’s husband, began to visit her bedchamber early in the mornings to romp in the bed with her. What exactly happened between Elizabeth and Seymour remained a “mystery”, but certainly Seymour's interest in Elizabeth became blatantly sexual. Elizabeth would reputedly rise early so that when he came to her bedchamber in the mornings she would already be up and dressed. Matters came to a head when Elizabeth was reputedly found alone with him, and Katherine decided that she had to leave the household.
Although it is not historically considered sexual abuse, how could it be experienced in a teenager’s psyche and sexuality in XVI century? And even today. . .
In her private experience, I believe she was a virgin in the sense of wholeness (also Vesta conjunct Pallas in 6th house opposite Lilith in Sag in 12th conjunct SN Vesta, square Amazone in 2nd house and opposite Astraea in Sag in 11th house, Pluto in Aquarius in 1st house, SN in 2nd house, both ruled by Uranus conjunct Saturn in 7th).
On the other hand, not marrying was linked to the need of not submitting to men’s will or domination (“ There has to be only a mistress here, not a master”), to embracing Aries polarity and integrating it through Resolution Lilith as a way to complete the inner male/female balance without sliding back into old patterns; thus culminating a relationship cycle of dependence, projections and trauma in order to begin a new cycle of equality in relationships based on her creative actualization and acknowledgment of power, hers and other’s (Venus in Libra wide New conjunction Sun in 8th house).
I didn’t consider her chastity from an EA point of view. Relative to historical considerations I suspect there was much gossip regarding her sexuality (Uranus square Mercury conjunct Lucifer, Moon in 3rd house opposite DML in Scorpio), and that what we know from her and her mother has much of his
tory, as Jeffrey named it.
Thanks Rad for this choice and your feedback.