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Originally posted by tetra50
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Thanks so much for reading and relating your personal experiences.
As I said earlier in the thread, I now regret even mentioning gang stalking, as it was meant only as a tangential, because it is related to environmental harrassment, whereas the thread was supposed to focus on attacks on the mind. Thought propagation, EMF induction, etc. I supplied quite a few links to sources for how far this tech has come, and how many different ways it is being employed, or rather, deployed against people, for whatever reason.
A good part of the thread became about why it would be done, and so forth.
I do not disagree at all that this could be coming from sources other than government, or even mankind. but I also think it could very well be both, working in concert, for whatever reason.
Again, I wished to make a thread where people felt safe from the usual schizophrenia, mental issues, paranoia that get thrown at them every time they try to address this topic.
But your time and attention, and relating your story are greatly appreciated. I also tried in this thread to elucidate
how deep this can go in terms of life changing for a human being, and what that level of control over human beings truly means and can and will lead to, down the road.
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Oh, I understand what you are looking for. That was mostly just an example, to show understanding that someone can be a target of something odd, and have no clue as to why. Maybe there isn't a real reason, directly related to them.
For that level of mental manipulation, the effects can be profound. For all we know, many suspected of mental illness are actually targets of such behavior. I have long speculated that some considered "crazy" could in fact be subject to some real manipulation, that most people could not understand, and won't accept as even possible. How would a person feel, if they KNEW something was actually happening, and no one believed them? Confused, abandoned, misunderstood, targeted, and so forth. Something like that could quite literally ruin lives, and might have.
The long term goals for such could be (I would say "are") quite chilling. Not only could people be made to seem "crazy", but they could be affected in other ways as well. People could through such means, be made to believe all sorts of things, and even be influenced to DO all sorts of things that they would normally never consider. Such power, in the wrong hands, could be used to quite literally control the world.
I would definitely agree about governments working with other forces. All the evidence indicates such a thing.
Are you pretending to be Jason Bourne? From the movies? Or are you implying you are an MK Ultra Victim?
Maybe you just really want to be special?
This just seems the normal socially akward teenage ramblings who tries to make sense of his being "different".
I cannot even begin to describe how it felt to actually hear what was on that tape after so long. This was in my mother's possession, no less. She subjected me to this when I was a kid. Betrayal doesn't even begin and the funny/horrible thing was that when I tried to talk to my friends about it, almost all of them ran like hell. When I sought help on trying to isolate the doctor's voice, I had people telling me that they were scared that somebody was going to show up on their doorstep. With the exception of my father, my SO, my children and my best friend, I was utterly abandoned by the rest of society. And I wasn't even alleging conspiracy. All it was my having a scary tape which was made by a former associate dean/neuropsychiatrist
I was a victim of significant and extreme child abuse of a physical, mental, and emotional nature. I found something abhorrent, shared it and this was the response I received for the sharing of my experience. The people who post these kind of things should be ashamed of themselves. What happened to me, the tape, everything--that was absolutely real. I cannot even begin to describe how much it damaged my psyche just to find and listen to that tape. It turned my life into bitter wasteland where I can't even trust my own flesh and blood.
"America fundamentally wants to think of itself as being good, and that we're fundamentally right in what we're doing, and we have a very compelling responsibility for the free world. And looking at some of these issues is troubling, because if America does have a darker side it threatens your hold on your view of America and it's kind of like, 'Gee, if I pull out this one underpinning of the American consciousness, is this a house of cards? Does it really threaten the fundamental nature of America?'"
Microwave Technology And Its Use Against Humanity
We've been telling you that advanced microwave technology is being used against the human race. We've taken many beatings from skeptics but things are finally coming to light on this subject. We're including material here which should make the subject clearer.
In the book, "Cross Currents", by Robert O. Becker, M.D. (Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc., 5858 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 200, Los Angeles, CA, 90036), the author covers the perils of electromagnetic radiation, as well as the promises of electro-medicine.
His appendix is: "The Hidden Hand on the Switch: Military Uses of the Electromagnetic Spectrum".
The New Killing Fields: Electromagnetic Weapons
While the military was vigorously denying the very existence of bioeffects from electromagnetic-field exposure, such bioeffects were actually being explored as potential weapons -- weapons with the enormous advantage of being totally silent and imperceptible.
The EMP [electromagnetic pulse] concept has been extended through the development of devices that generate EMP pulses without the need for nuclear explosions. Such devices could be deployed for use against enemy command and control centers and against aircraft in order to produce failure of electronic equipment. A derivative of this program is HPM (high-power pulsed microwave), a system producing intense, extremely short pulses of microwave. Several types, ranging in frequency from 1200 MHz to 35 GHz with powers up to 1000 megawatts, are being tested. These are also considered for potential use as weapons against human beings.
A recent report derived from the testing program of the Microwave Research Department of the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research states, "Microwave energy in the range 1 to 5 GHz, a militarily important range, penetrates all organ systems of the body and thus puts all organ systems at risk." Effects on the central nervous system are considered very important. The testing program, begun in 1986, is divided into four parts: (1) prompt debilitation effects; (2) prompt stimulation through auditory effects; (3) work interference/stoppage effects; and (4) effects on stimulus-controlled behavior. The report goes on to state, "Microwave pulses appear to couple to the central nervous system and produce stimulation similar to electrical stimulation unrelated to heat." It appears that HPM is capable of altering behavior in the same fashion as Delgado's electrical stimulation.
The production of cognitive and behavioral alteration by HPM [high-power pulsed microwave] is a sledgehammer effect in comparison to the subtle alterations produced by ELF [extra low frequency] fields. According to a 1982 Air Force review of biotechnology, ELF has a number of potential military uses, including "dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches in security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare." The same report states, "[Electromagnetic] systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual disruption or disorientation. They are silent, and countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop.
Anthony Lake, National Security Advisor-Elect
Madeleine Albright, U.N. Ambassador-Elect
Judy Abdo, Mayor of Santa Monica, CA; SM is hit by the planes.
Timothy Walsh, manager, Santa Monica Airport
Ron Dellums, Chairman, House Armed Services Committee.
PS: I heard on our listener sponsored station that the Los Alamos national laboratories said it could make electromagnetic weapons to stun or kill people. Also that FEMA has a martial law plan, and a lot of unmarked black helicopters which have been sighted, especially in Colorado etc.
I discovered these references in Cross Currents:
Tyler, Paul E: "The Electromagnetic spectrum in Low-Intensity Conflict." In Low Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology, edited by Lt. Col. David J. Dean, U.S.A.F. Center for Aerospace Doctrine, Research, and Education, Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala.: Air University Press, 1986. This article discusses the direct use of electromagnetic fields against personnel.
"Walter Reed's Microwave Research Department: Its History and Mission [Part I of two parts]." In Bioelectromagnetics Society Newsletter, January- February 1989. Discusses high-power pulsed microwave as it relates to antipersonnel use. The Bioelectromagnetics Society has strong links to the military establishment and is considered to be an authoritative source.
Steneck, Nicholas H. The Microwave Debate. Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1984. History of military microwave technology. Details of secret projects presenting radiation hazards.
Military Implanting Humans and Microwave Technology
[If the above file isn't enough there's more to this than most ever thought possible. Along with ETs implanting people it appears the military has their own program. Read on.]
There is currently an electronic mind control system extremely effective and very difficult to detect. It is definitely being used on at least one person in California and probably many more in America. It is most likely being used by members of the U.S. Government (Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Department of Defense), The Illuminate, Freemasons, The Brotherhood, or the secret "Greek Society." Essentially, the above groups overlap and may be viewed as the "The Organization." They are experts at secrecy, cover-up, terrorism and mind control. They view themselves as "enlightened." They are essentially organized criminals who commit massive abuses, terrorism, torture, mind control, slavery, and murder.
Their most common techniques are to use behavior modification and hypnosis on a person under ether gas or another general anesthetic. It causes a person to be extremely under their mind control when given an auditory or visual posthypnotic signal. They call this creating a "slave" or putting them into a "Greek sleep." Because of the techniques and drugs the person has complete amnesia for the conditioning. As well, frequently the victim has complete amnesia for the behaviors they are instructed to do while in the hypnotic trance. Then members of The Organization financially, mentally, physically, and sexually abuse the victim or "slave." If a person begins to recall the conditioning or abuses they are told "It was only a dream," or "you are crazy, it didn't happen." Often the victim is also given memory blocking drugs and electric shock to the head to erase the memories.
The Organization extensively uses the above techniques. Unfortunately, several extremely sophisticated advanced techniques have been developed and have been in use for several years:
1. A person is taken under a general anesthetic to a surgery location. This is usually done at night while the victim is sleeping. Ether gas is injected into his or her bedroom and the victim is drugged and taken away.
The above involuntary sedation is also how other conditioning, torture, and abuses are often done. Alternately, the victim is simply told lies about the need for surgery.
2. An incision is made just behind the ear or inside the ear canal with cosmetic surgery techniques. When healed it just looks like a fold in the skin. The entire procedure is often done without the person realizing it.
3. Incredibly, a miniaturized electrode plate is inserted under the skull and next to the brain near the pre-speech area of the brain. It has the latest extremely small and powerful microchip sensors, battery, and transmitter.
4. The sensors-transmitter, which is EEG micro technology, read the brain waves and transmit a digital signal. The signal is extraordinarily strong for such a small device. The signal can travel several miles. It is picked up by a relay receiver and transmitted to a computer, where instantaneously the software reads the digits and converts them into language. This is all done at radio wave speed, or the speed of light.
5. Effectively, A PERSON WITH THE INVOLUNTARY IMPLANT HAS EVERY THOUGHT READ WITHOUT KNOWING IT. It sounds like science fiction or paranoia doesn't it? It is not fiction and it is not the product of a psychosis. It is absolutely true. The technology is this advanced, and the criminal organization is this psychopathic. The Organization relies on it sounding so bizarre and heinous that no one would believe it. It is extremely cruel high technology reality. ANY ONE WHO DISCLOSES THEIR DIABOLICAL METHODS IS EASILY DISCREDITED, TERRORIZED, MIND CONTROLLED, OR MURDERED by The Organization.
6. Accompanying the above "thought reading" technique are the "thought inserting" techniques. Very low frequency subliminal sound has been used for years for "inserting" ideas into one's mind. Basically, very low frequency subliminal sound is perceived by the victim as one's own thinking. It bypasses the normal auditory system, but the content of the words is perceived. Because it is so subtle, if a broadcast is in first person language, an unaware person finds it impossible to discriminate the subliminal broadcast from one's own thoughts.
One disadvantage of the above "low frequency subliminal sound" technique is that others in the area also experience the same broadcast. Sometimes people have simultaneous thoughts with another person in a situation, it may reflect that someone in the area is using a "low frequency subliminal sound" technique.
7. The mind control "sound" broadcast is now accompanied by an incredible "radio" broadcast technique. They make use of another surgery technique for this "thought inserting." Cosmetic surgery is used to insert a microchip receiver-speaker under the skin near the ear drum. Essentially, it is a very tiny radio receiver with a tiny battery and speaker. Usually one is placed near each ear drum, and behind the ear canals so they won't be detected. A very low volume broadcast is used so the person does not perceive it as sound, but as one's own thoughts. Effectively, A PERSON WITH THE INVOLUNTARY IMPLANTS HAS THOUGHTS INSERTED WITHOUT KNOWING IT.
8. Summarizing, there are two basic advanced techniques: 1.) Thought reading implant 2.) Thought inserting implants. Along with the standard mind control techniques there is a complete grievous human slave technology. The surgeries are done under general anesthetics, which often includes time for the incisions to heal. The person is told he or she had a severe flu or some other illness to account for the time of unconsciousness. Alternately, the victim is simply lied to about the surgery. The victim unknowingly has involuntary implants that "read" thoughts and "insert" thoughts electronically. The person is not even aware they have the implants.
9. Most people unfamiliar with The Organization's methods find it difficult to believe the above. I have found that many people with whom I have discussed the above are also victims of basic terrorism or mind control. Part of the mind control process is to strongly condition people to the idea that you are psychotic or in danger for thinking such things happen.
There are firemen, police, military, lawyers, doctors, engineers, clergy, teachers, journalists, and other members of communities who conspire to commit atrocities. Unsuspecting victims are kept defenseless. The Organization is without conscience and their acts are so evil it is difficult to believe. They are very secretive, well organized, and have the latest technology. Members of The Organization are extremely proficient at lying, deceit, impersonation, and mind control.
God as my witness, I give you my word the above is true and accurate to the very best of my ability.
Name and address withheld
[We were so impressed with Mr. --'s account we called California and had a long talk with him. He said that as a psychologist he worked with people that went over the edge or had emotional problems relating to their jobs or work assignments. We feel the man is very intelligent and sincere in his efforts to educate the public about this technology and its use on an unsuspecting public. What you have just read is but a very small portion of what we have amassed with Glenda Stocks unfaltering help on this diabolical approach to enslaving humanity.]
How Psychetronic Weapons Work
By the '60s, weapon research had split into two distinctly different fields. The first of these fields involved weapons operation on frequencies in the same range as the human brain's electrical activity of 14 Hertz (or 14 cycles old values). These were and still are called E(L)F, standing for Extraordinarily (L)ow Frequency. Design was intended to induce illness by upsetting the electrical patterns in specific areas of the brain, resulting in nausea, faintness, panic attack and possible unconsciousness at short range; depression and other symptoms at long range. The ambition was to identify which precise frequency was needed for each individual human reaction. Under the Reagan administration's top secret Project Sleeping Beauty, Dr. Michael Persinger, chief neurologist at Laurentian University's Environmental Physiology Laboratory in Ontario, was "quietly" funded to find the answers. Using what are called time-varying fields of low intensity in the extraordinary low frequency range from one to ten hertz, Persinger was consistently able to make a cage of rats sick. The E(L)F field he generated had stimulated the MAST histamine-producing brain cells into inducing instant nausea. Specific research on E(L)F weapons was continued by Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher, a nuclear physicist and boss of the Technic Research Laboratory in San Leandro, California. Rauscher had already identified specific frequency effects to induce not only nausea but also happiness, for example. Clearly, Dr. Rauscher was an enthusiast: "Give me the money and three months", she boasted, "and I'll be able to affect the behavior of 80 per cent of the people in this town without their knowing it. Make them happy or at least they'll think they're happy. Or aggressive." Much later, in March 1984, Captain Paul Tyler, a U.S. Navy doctor responsible for all research into the effects of radiation on humans, presented a paper at the Air University Centre for Aerospace Doctrine. Tyler confirmed that "specific biological effects can be achieved" with electromagnetic fields. He made it very clear that the required fields had already been identified for operational use. Massive power generation required for E(L)F transmission is still a problem, apparently. So far the U.S. "underground" is not aware of any proven incidents where E(L)F has been used against the general public in a hostile manner. Examples do exist (on both sides) where massive transmitters have been bombarding specific areas of the U.S. and USSR for decades. Those areas are so large that if data exists on long term effects, the "underground" has no known access to it. Unsubstantiated rumors persist that the U.S. F117A "stealth" fighter bomber can be fitted with E(L)F weaponry inside its internal bomb bay. Whether or not the equipment was used against specific targets in Iraq during the U.S. attack is unknown. It should be remembered that E(L)F waves are invasive. Unlike EHF, which reflects off hard surfaces, E(L)F can and does penetrate extremely dense substances, including reinforced concrete etc. Defensive measures remain unknown at the general level against this kind of radiation though, presumably, lead (Pb) would act as an effective barrier.
The other field of weapons research concerns those weapons operating in the micro or millimetric frequencies and also referred to as "Barrier Warfare Microwave Tech". Such weapons operate at the opposite end of the electromagnetic wave lengths from E(L)F, i.e. at Extraordinarily High Frequencies. Microwaves are those commonly used in radar sets and microwave ovens, for example. The principal advantage of EHF over E(L)F lies in the fact that its transmissions are "straight line" and can thus be beamed with ease into small or tiny areas. E(L)F, by comparison, tends to scatter widely. Microwaves are generated by a device known as a "Magnetron" in which electrons, generated by a heated cathode, are moved by the combined force of a magnetic and electrical field. The cathode is a hollow cylinder with the outside coated with barium and strontium oxide electron emitters. Arranged concentrically around the outside of the cathode is a large cylindrical anode containing a large number of "resonant cavities", normally of quarter- wavelength, on the inner surface. When switched on, the magnetron generates an electrical field radially between anode and cathode, while the magnetic field is coaxial with the cathode. The complete assembly is sealed inside a vacuum enclosure. The maximum power output is naturally limited by the size of the individual Magnetron but research indicates the largest can generate a stream of microwave "pulses" at up to ten million watts per pulse. The resulting microwave pulsed beam can be focused in much the same way as a camera lens - from ultra wide angle to telephoto - creating area or pinpoint capability. Fortunately the Magnetron is not a small device. Informed sources indicate a portable Magnetron powerful enough to harm a large group of demonstrators, for example, would require space equal to a small truck.
Amount of Injury
Walter Bowart, American author of Operation Mind Control, claims that by 1989, at least one group of female British demonstrators had been exposed to Barrier Warfare of the EHF microwave variety. Bowart's claim fell in line with covert approval from the White House to test such systems on non-American citizens. His claim was given further credibility by the savage mind control experiments funded by the CIA, and carried out by notorious psychiatrist Ewen Cameron on Canadians in Montreal - once again, non-Americans and thus expendable. Specific symptoms presented by the females, who were demonstrating against American nuclear weapons or waste in Britain, were as follows:
1. Anomalies with menstrual cycles;
2. Spontaneous abortion;
3. Other (unspecified) feminine problems;
4. Retinal burning;
5. Inner ear problems;
6. Rapidly growing tumors.
At the time the demonstrators were camped for an extended period of time in tents, indicative of "low level" wide angle bombardment designed to produce severe discomfort in the long term, rather than acute discomfort or death in the short term.
Biological rhythms, physical wellbeing and mental states are dependent on our electrical brainwave system interacting with the extremely weak electromagnetic fields generated by the Earth's telluric and Cosmic radiations. In a single generation, since the evolution of humankind over millions of years, we are exposed to a wide range of powerful, artificially generated electromagnetic radiation which adversely affects the subtle balance in nature's energy fields and has become the source of so-called ‘diseases of civilisation’. This also includes electromagnetic sensitivity. Generally, there is a lack of awareness and understanding of the impact electromagnetic fields can have upon health and wellbeing.
Our ancestors were acutely aware that certain locations, were perceived to have a positive energy field which was beneficial to health and vitality. Over time, these areas are now referred to as sacred sites for spiritual ceremony and as healing centres. In contrast, there are other geographical locations that can have a negative effect upon health and these are known as geopathic stress zones. It is believed that such zones can interfere with the brain's normal function that inhibits the release of melatonin and other endocrine secretions needed to replenish the immune system. Geopathic stress can affect animals and plant life as well as human beings and significantly contributes to sick building syndrome (SBS).
Whilst there is an increasing body of opinion amongst eminent researchers and scientists who are addressing these issues, the establishment professions are slow to change. However, very gradually, modern allopathic medicine and attitudes are beginning to recognise the extraordinary wisdom and efficacy of ancient traditions such as acupuncture, light, colour and other therapies based on the understanding and treatment of the interaction of a person's electromagnetic subtle body and the immediate environment. These and many other ‘complementary’ therapies may soon become mainstream medical practice. In the meantime, we can help ourselves by learning how to detect the hazards and daily practise prudent avoidance.