Hey-the duct tape idea worked! It stops them from getting in the "breathable" parts, and I can keep them off my socks. My shins are fine-and where I live pants aren't too uncomfortable in August-97 was a record the other day, so it's mostly cooler than that. Anyway, thanks, and sorry to waste a whole nother thread, but my computer is stupid now and shuts the entire net down when I try to reply. Stupid blocker. Like I said-thanks for the duct tape idea-my socks thank you as well.