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Man and Dinosaur in
By the time Charles Darwin published his book “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life” in 1859, those with an Atheistic or naturalistic view of the universe already had read and discussed plenty of scientific thought trending along those lines which had provided them with a degree of “intellectual fulfillment”. Darwin’s own grandfather, Erasmus Darwin had proposed around 1796 ideas hypothesizing common descent with organisms "acquiring new parts" in response to stimuli., and then passing these changes down to their offspring.
In other words,
The point is, the scientific
world was fully ready for
It’s interesting to read news
articles of the early 1900’s and to see how thoroughly Darwinism had already
been accepted, so relatively soon after the publication of the book. One can
clearly see the ridicule already being heaped on believers as is done today but, it was still
a more innocent time and news articles or opinions that would be edited out or
not reported because of the
This is one of the reasons that this author has searched the archives of that time. If ever there was a time when one might have an opportunity to see reported stories and ideas in the popular press that would challenge or contradict the theory of evolution, one imagines anyway that this would have been the time; when the Darwinian paradigm was not as thorough an editor and shaper of the world one got to see as it is today.
In a 1984 debate with Dr. Duane Gish, a creationist, a Dr. Mayer, an evolutionist, stated,
"Creationists have stated that humans and dinosaurs were contemporaries in time...Were this momentous statement true the names of its discoverers would thunder down the corridors of time as individuals who made one of the most outstanding discoveries of the twentieth century”.
Dr. Mayer wasn’t the first evolutionist to throw down that particular gauntlet. In fact, this “momentous statement”, that man and dinosaur co-existed, has been proven true any number of times, including here on s8int.com, if we can reach around far enough to pat ourselves on the back. The problem is evolutionists deem evidence of this “momentous statement” as false on a de facto basis.
As a matter of fact, the continued discovery of living coelacanths, a rather unattractive fish that evolutionists thought looked prehistoric, and thought by evolutionists to have become extinct even Before the time of the dinosaurs, should have already taught evolutionists like Mayer some caution in this area. Such has proven not to be the case. Evolutionists still hold that man and dinosaur missed each other by 40 plus million years.
In this article, we will prove once again that man and dinosaur coexisted in Mongolia as discovered by leading scientists of the time and as reported in the New York Times and the Associated Press, and we will see if our names or anyone else’s will “thunder down the corridors of time”, as Dr. Mayer, famous perhaps for his all meat hotdog if not for his debating skills, predicted.
At 1,564,116 square kilometres,
Dr. Roy Chapman Andrews of the American Museum of Natural History
Unknown Fossils Found in
Kozloff, Russian Scientist, unearths Hundreds of Skeletons of Species Never Seen Before
Wheat Thousands of Years Old Reportedly Still “Eatable”
New York Times, Sept. 24, 1924
Perhaps the first indication that something was amiss from
an evolutionary perspective was in a series of articles concerning discoveries
by Russian scientist Kozloff and by Professor Henry F. Osborne of the
For some reason, prior to these discoveries and perhaps because it was such an arid and forbidding place, dinosaur fossils were not expected to be found in Mongolia. In the year prior to the publishing of this article, discoveries such as nests of dinosaur eggs made by Prof Roy Chapman Andrews of the AMNH had led him to call the region a “paleontological Garden of Eden”.
Back to the 1924 article: “Urga.
Among the fossils already unearthed by Prof. Kozloff and his assistants are those of 25 quadrupeds of undesignated species, 150 birds of various sizes, 100 reptiles, snakes and fishes and more than 1,000 insects of giant size”.
Andrews at work in an expedition to Mongolia
So, we have an enormous quantity of extinct creatures, including giant insects, in association with man. What caused the fossilization of these creatures together? And did you read; point of origin of man and reptile? This certainly suggests the remains of man along with the remains of what evolutionists call “early reptiles”—like dinosaurs—but this is not the proof we spoke of. That is to come in another article which amplifies these Mongolian discoveries.
According the this 1924 article, even more startling than the discovery of the human and reptile fossils together was the discovery by Kozloff of royal tombs containing still edible bricks of tea and wheat, many thousands of years old.
So what were these unknown animals? When was there a period on earth that giant insects, reptiles and humans could have been fossilized together, one might well ask?
Continuing this line of thought for a moment, and the flood of Noah certainly would come to mind, is an article on the region a little later in time, from 1948:
Russians Report Finding Dinosaurs by the Millions
United Press, Nov. 23, 1948
As a result of geological changes, the giant beasts lie buried from 49 to 131 feet deep. Among the prize specimens , Prof Yefremov said, were a horned dinosaur 36 feet long, one of five such ever found, and a 98-foot 5-inch dinosaur that walked on its hind legs.
In the following article from 1925, Kozloff elaborates on some of his discoveries in the Mongolian Tombs:
Tells of Rich Finds in Mongolian Tombs
Prof Kozloff Describes Gold and Art Objects—Saw Blood Clots 2,100 years Old
New York Times, 1925
Kozloff described the large burial chambers where he found a number of “pigtails” which still had blood clotted on them. He hoped that this would lead to the discovery of the nationality of the women he presumed had been scalped.
“The carpets underneath the coffins bore scenes showing fights between an animal resembling the yak and some sort of predatory beast (?); also an elk attacked by a winged animal (?)….
The gem of the whole collection, he thought were tapestries showing horsemen, which recalled the art of the Greeks, and carpets representing an elk with a griffin riding on its back”.
More information about the people whose remains were found among the enormous quantity of fossil reptiles and other creatures is provided in a 1926 article in which Kozloff, the Russian Explorer was interviewed;
Trace Ancient People Through Granite Carvings in
New York Times, 1926
“Explorers, says The
In these granite hills there is a great piece of sculpture in two parts, which appears to represent a sort of Mongolian sphinx….
At many other parts of the route of the expedition, the explorer found granite obelisks and other monuments, all bearing inscriptions, ruins of temples…..”
The term "brontothere", meaning thunder - beast, was a product of Sioux Indian mythology. The Brontotherium they were referring to was a large Oligocene mammal, distantly related to the rhinoceros, and had a forked "horn" on its snout.
Being larger in the males than in the females, this horn was probably used in fighting, much like those of deer and antelope today. The brontotherium died out as the great forests were replaced by grasslands where horses, rhinos and other mammals became more abundant.
TIME - 37.5 - 32MYA, Early Oligocene epoch RANGE - USA - NV, CA (Death Valley), SD, ND SIZE - These creatures reached a height of up to 8 ft (2.5 m) at the shoulder. WEIGHT - 2 US tons
After learning more about the animals found in
Huge Fossil Finds Made by Andrews
NEW MONSTERS UNEARTHED
Head Bones of an
Animal as Long as the
New York Times, Aug 17, 1928
“Fossil remains of a gigantic new mammal, possibly larger than the “Baluchitherium” with a humerus or bone of the upper fore limb, “as big as a manÂ’s body” are being brought out: Also a “huge Titananothere with extraordinary saddle-like skull,” are among the ninety cases of fossils the expedition has found…
Of equal interest is the report of the discovery of
“residence sites of dune dwellers, whose culture is everywhere, yielding
thousands of stone implements, decorated bones, shells and tooth necklace,
indicating that 20,000 years ago
Should there be a suggestion or thought that the huge extinct animal fossils and the co-evidence of men (whose artifacts included many uses of the very animals found there) were supposed by the scientists to have lived in vastly different ages, there is the following quote from the article:
“First, it is clear that the Titanotheres,
large horned quadrupeds which became extinct in
According to Wikipedia, “the Oligocene epoch is a geologic period that extends from about 33.9 million to 23 million years before the present.”, obviously millions of years prior to the appearance of man , according to evolutionary theory. The co-existence of man with giant mammals which supposedly became extinct more than 23 million years ago should shock the sensibilities of the evolutionary adherents as much as would the coexistence of man and dinosaur –and this we shall soon discover was proven to be the case in the arid regions of Mongolia.
Before we go there, however, there is one more noteworthy quote from Dr Andrews of the AMNH, which is worth revisiting (an actual Godzilla?);
“Peking, Aug 16—The head bones
of the prehistoric monster unearthed by Roy Chapman Andrews at the southern
edge of the Gobi Desert
today were described by him as indicating the existence of a colossal animal
“about the size of the Woolworth Building if the building were in a horizontal
Andrews claimed to have discovered a creature as large as the Woolworth Building in Mongolia. This is a s8int.com depiction of the creature and not an actual photo.
Dinosaur eggs have been found all over the world but never
really in great numbers. Dinosaur eggs were found there in
Keep this fact about rock hard dinosaur eggs in mind, as we read excerpts from an Associated Press article from 1925 as narrated by Prof. Roy Chapman Andrews, of the American Museum of Natural History, a veritable temple of the evolution religion, if you will,
Discovery Sheds Light on Humans
Bones of Dinosaurs And Prehistoric Humans Found in
Associated Press, August 20, 1925
These primitive men bored the shells and made ornaments of the eggs left by the dinosaur, the giant reptile that roamed the Asiatic plains some 10,000,000 years ago. Mr. Andrews said they used for the same purposes the shell of a gigantic ostrich egg, long sense extinct.”
Clearly, these men were not using the fossilized eggs of dinosaurs to make these ornaments. If dinosaurs had truly been extinct for 40 million years they would have been unworkable. They had to be using “fresh” dinosaur eggs. If not fossilized, the dinosaur eggs would have hatched, been eaten or decayed but certainly would not have been found in a workable state millions of years after they were deposited.
Dr. Andrews did the best he could by suggesting that these dinosaur co-existers, were primitive men, dubbing them “primitive Dune Dwellers of Shabarack Ussu”. He thought that they were the earliest type of man in development from the ape.
Dinosaur eggs, fossilized
Mr. Andrews also found two human skeletons in association with other dinosaur eggs, some of which were tentatively described as those of the protoceratops.
So we have in these articles evidence of great dinosaur
graveyards, of extinct ancient civilizations, giant dinosaurs and giant insects
and clearly proof of dinosaur and human coexistence supported not by “wild
eyed” creationists, but by one of the leading scientists of the day on
dinosaurs from the
Shall I now find my name “thundered down the corridors of time” as Dr. Mayer promised? Better it should be written in the Lambs Book of Life!
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