I have plenty of critical thinking skills, it only seems like they are sorely lacking from some of the members here, who somehow believe that a higher post count means you necessarily have greater critical thinking skills. That in itself shows a severe lack of logical reasoning ability, and should signal to anyone that some of these people don't have the best reasoning skills in the world.
Anyone can verify what I've said simply by setting all their sliders to +4 or +5 and noticing that it now sounds exactly the same as when it is set on "Normal." That's because "Normal" is the same as setting all the sliders to +4 or +5. On some of the firmwares, at least. Maybe these other people have different firmware and they are getting a different effect.
If you knew the settings for the other presets, you could just set those yourself manually, too. It's not like there is some kind of "magic" setting that doesn't exist on the sliders that Sansa has made up for the presets.
The fact that proves these people like Max F and this DKaz are wrong is that a flat frequency setting means that all the sliders are set to zero. But if you set all the sliders to zero, it doesn't sound the way it does at "Normal." Therefore, "Normal" cannot be true flat. True flat is different from "Normal." That is very simple logic, but it appears these folks are too busy trying to impugn other people's critical thinking skills to have developed any of their own.
Setting EQ to true flat is not a CUT in the frequency response. Setting it to "Normal" is a BOOST in the frequency response. It's a boost from true flat. And when it's boosted that way, artificially, by using the "Normal" EQ boost setting, and you adjust one of the sliders, it then automatically RESETS to true flat and you adjust it from there.
Yes, you can call that a "cut" if you want, but it's just semantics. If you mean a cut from how it is artificially boosted with the "Normal" setting, then that is one way to say it. Not the most accurate, but obviously going from an artificial +4 boost to zero is a cut. If you mean a cut from true flat, the way these people are using it, then you'd be wrong. Because "Normal" ISN'T true flat. "Normal" is BOOSTED.
When people aren't even smart enough to understand that "Normal" is just a word Sansa uses for their preset that boosts all the frequency settings by +4, you have to question what else they aren't smart enough to understand. They seem to be very confused just by a simple word, thinking since it says "Normal," that must mean "flat at zero," when it doesn't mean that at all. It means all frequencies boosted from flat. Sansa could have just called it "Warm," or "Boost," or any other word they wanted to, but they called it "Normal." Sorry, that's not the same as zero. It appears that you need to boost your critical thinking skills to +4.
Edited by ventilator - 5/25/10 at 6:10am
Originally Posted by DKaz
I love the individuals who join the forum and start spouting off at the mouth without researching and using their critical thinking skills (maybe they have none). They can take years of research from other members and piss it down the drain with their own comments.
Max F and JaZZ have the EQ figured out correctly. The "Normal" setting is the equivalent of a flat EQ. Boosting all 5 frequencies should not give you the exact same response because the entire frequency range would not be boosted in linear fashion. There would indeed be some curve. I am sure doing a sweep with these settings would reveal it.
That being said, I beleive the EQ of the Clip to be sub-par. Depending on how the EQ is implemented, then it is possible that boosting each frequency could still yield a "flat" response. That is NOT how an EQ should work however, and I do beleive that their is still some curvature to the response curve.