Recently I have been hanging out in a new facebook group “Vrydenkers”. These are people sharing a common ideology and ranges from various sectors of the community..the intellectuals, the frustrated, the extremist atheist wanting to assault anyone that threaten his nice and cozy life, the loving and kind teacher, and least of all the newspaper people…
On news24 I was accused of having trouble understand several terms, and definitions of these terms, mostly atheism. I even received a name “Pinocchio” for my effort from a gentleman that knows all and have seen all, yet remains emotional concerning issues that might affect his perceptions.
Firstly I will place the information I have on atheism, followed by another article that has results for the study mentioned below
Back to this group, I asked three questions
1. Define Atheism…
2. Give an argument for atheism, not agnosticism
3. Define God, if any based on their Ideology
I will discuss the response I got; however before that let us check some references in Part 2
“Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities”
“In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.”
“Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.”
“atheism Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.
disbelieve 1. trans. Not to believe or credit; to refuse credence to: a. a statement or (alleged) fact: To reject the truth or reality of.
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2a : a disbelief in the existence of deity
b : the doctrine that there is no deity( Note Doctrine) J
So three definitions, and not once is science mentioned…When Mememan argees http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Religious-Scientists-How-in-gods-name-does-that-happen-20130509
Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization. It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, and it cannot be changed or discarded without affecting the very system's paradigm, or the ideology itself.
“Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine)”
Could atheism in effect be doctrine help by a specific group, which forms part of their belief system or ideology where by inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology into it’s followers?
Let us check its origins…“In early ancient Greek, the adjective atheos (??e??, from the privative ?- + ?e?? "god") meant "godless". It was first used as a term of censure roughly meaning "ungodly" or "impious". In the 5th century BCE, the word began to indicate more deliberate and active godlessness in the sense of "severing relations with the gods" or "denying the gods". The term ?seß?? (asebes) then came to be applied against those who impiously denied or disrespected the local gods, even if they believed in other gods.”
So in a sense, the view was that of a weak atheist. The difference between a strong and weak atheist is that in the case of strong atheists, they deny the existence of god/s, any and all, where weak atheists reject only a certain god/s.
This is where the argument that Baron d'Holbach said that "All children are born Atheists; they have no idea of God”
This definition is most described by the atheists on News 24.
“Atheism is simply the disbelief in the existence of a deity”
Some synonyms for disbelief are “Mistrust, Sceptic, Doubt, and Suspicion”.
So we can agree that the synonyms are correct. Now, if Baron d'Holbach was correct, then babies would be able to doubt, be skeptical, mistrust and have a suspicion about the existence of gods. Most atheists said that they have come to their conclusion of atheism, by questioning, reading, studying information and reaching a conclusion that there might or isn’t a God… It will be denied, but most atheists claimed that they have a higher intelligent, more will to be freethinkers, and use logic and reasoning. Now, I have witnessed many things, but a baby doing this…So, not to be doubtful, could I please consult with the atheists newly born babies, on whether they are capable of doing this… Then I will accept this view as correct and factual…And please don’t use the Implicit vs. explicit ploy either…It doesn’t help the definition of atheism..
A great advert why not to be an atheist( higher intelligence etc http://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/ … The “I am smarter than you argument”…LOL