totally agree with you,although boro themselves are partly to blame for the position theyre in for going for the cheap option. what i mean is why go for southgate? an inexperienced manager. boro should have spent decent money on a decent manager. the saying is...pay peanuts and you get a monkey...well thats about right. its the same with the goalkeeper isnt it....as for downing..i would let him go and buy someone decent. thats not a bad reflection on downing himself. anyway back to southgate..only three words i can say O U T O U T O U T.