Now the earth was formless and empty (Not collapsed / Wave Function),
"The reality of wave function collapse has always been debated, i.e., whether it is a fundamental physical phenomenon in its own right or just an
epiphenomenon of another process, such as quantum decoherence. In recent decades the quantum decoherence view has gained popularity "
So lets talk science now? "Formless" would not be an earth by "self definition" of earth.
On the nature as to how evil entered the holy creation The Gnostics hint at this with the noumenal, the Kababalh with tzim-tzum
I find this useful....
In Kabbalistic cosmology, the Qliphoth are metaphorical “shells” surrounding holiness. They are spiritual obstacles receiving their existence from
God only in an external, rather than internal manner. Divinity in Judaism connotes revelation of God's true unity, while the shells conceal holiness,
as a peel conceals the fruit within. They are therefore synonymous with idolatry, the root of impurity through ascribing false dualism in the Divine,
and with the Sitra Achra (סטרא אחרא "Other Side"), the perceived realm opposite to holiness. They emerge in the descending Seder
hishtalshelus (Chain of Being) through Tzimtzum (contraction of the Divine Ohr), as part of the purpose of Creation
I can go all day if you like. You will not be able to muster an argument that I cannot then show in the reflection back to you from the Bible. Try if
you like. The same holds true for Paul, Jesus and so on. If you choose the wrong side of truth, the light is revealing this just as clearly as someone
choosing the right side of truth. You cast your own shadows, you light your own fire and you can also use that light as a way to see the path. It's a
I dont agree with the above but just humour for a minute and tell me what lesson jehovah/the deimurge was attempting to convey when Elisha called on
2 Kings 2:23-24
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and
said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty
and two children of them.
One christians response is
"One slight ajustment to make in your mind. The Hebrew word translated "little children" in that scripture refers to people who were in the
"apprenticeship" part of their lives, meaning between the ages of 18 and 30. Most modern tranlation use the word "youth", not children These were
not a group of 9 and 10 year olds just being silly. These were young adults who knew exactly who they were mocking and what they were doing. If you
look at where and when the incident happened, Elisha had just spend several years following, servicing, and learning from Elijah. The time had come
for Elijah to go to heaven. Elisha refused to allow his master to go off alone to die. Instead he kept following him. Finally, when the time came, a
fiery chariot came down and picked up Elijah and took him off to heaven. The chariot was visible to more than just Elisha, because immediately the
others in the area wanted to go searching for Elijah, considered that the charoit whould drop him somewhere. Al Elijah is leaving, up comes this gang
of young men (at least 42 of them) and begin mocking and abusing Elisha, yelling "Go up, bald man". These young men must have also witnessed the
miracle of Elijah going up in the chariot, or what did they mean by telling Elisah to also "Go up." This was no innocent group of kids. It was a
large gang of 40+ young adults, surrounding, mocking, and probably endangering the life of Elisha. Laughting at the miracle of God they had just
witnessed. Elisha spoke against them, and God sent the two bears. Elisha walked away unharmed. 42 of the youth did not. Note that it says the youth
were "torn apart" in the KJ. Most other translation use "rend", "torn" or "injured". The original Hebrew word does NOT mean killed".
why would one love such a god? through fear... oh yeah...i must not get it...the truth hasn't been revealed to me
"You cast your own shadows, you light your own fire and you can also use that light as a way to see the path. It's a choice."
the fire is already within each of us..the spark is revelation...there are many paths...and I'm glad for the choices...infinite lifetimes infinite
choices infinite paths...and when ready back to the unmanifested Sea of Mercy and Love of the Supreme..the fire is already within