Don't have any interest in the stereo. Like you've heard, I've read/heard the same. The stereo doesn't really add anything to the experience. $300+ vs $400+. Plus, the bubbler and style Frederick and others have/had, with the rounded top/dewaar is what I've always wanted. EDIT: I've been to Dementia's Valley location. They don't have half the @#$% they claim they do. Cool. How often do you see the that style Mobius and how are prices?