reply to post by Vasa Croe
No...meaning and purpose are learned actions to a chemical reaction in the brain. They are things we associate with the feelings based on
experience. If you are born and I tell you I love you every day and hit you when I say it, you will feel pain and associate it with love until someone
teaches you differently. The meaning and purpose behind and feeling are simply learned from experience.
Interesting take. So if a person says "I love you every day and hit you when I say it" then either he is insane or derange because no sane or normal
person will do such a thing. And the one receiving such treatment will become challenged and most definitely will NOT see it as love but hate. NO
human will see it as love because it's in our nature to differentiate feelings. But then again if one view these things as just chemical reactions
then I guess one can be capable of such an evil thing. Fortunately, majority of people in the world have morals whether they believe in a God or not.
They have morals not because it is a learned thing but because it's human nature to exhibit such feeling. In other words, it's part of our makeup.
It's natural as a newborn baby's smile upon hearing her mother's voice. It's natural as a warm hug from a dear loved one. But you're entitled to
what you believe and I hope you don't apply such twisted reasoning to your fellow man as they will react to you in kind. It's human nature.
And no, what you say is NOT fact. Please give me anything to debate the specific instance of evolution of the spotted moths I posted about.
There are none and that is a fact. They evolved, so please explain that with your Intelligent Design....as I said, I don't recall a designer ever
coming here to design the new species that pop up periodically or the differences within similar species.
Sure, I can provide facts that you can debate but as for the moths, did it evolved into something else? If it did, I must have missed it. Can you
please let me know what it evolved into, because as far as I know it just changed colors like a chameleon changing colors?
[qoute]And no....I was referring to your 6000 year statement as many bible/creationists believe the Earth is that old as well. So, if you believe the
Earth is billions of years old based on scientific evidence then how is it you believe humans are only 6000 years old? Or was that sarcasm?
No, not sarcasm, but fact - based on recorded human history being around 5000 years ago which is very close to the Biblical record of 6000 years ago.
And yes, unlike the Young Earth movement, I do believe based on present understanding - the earth is around 4BYO.
Again...creationists have a book, a novel, that says it happened that way and base the belief on faith.
No, not a novel but an inspired book from the Creator and our belief is not based on faith alone but on solid facts!
For instance, when did science found that the earth is being suspended in space (by a force we now know as gravity)? Was it in 19th/20th century?
Yet the Bible writers knew of this fact more than 3000 years ago. Now how did they know this bit of information if the Bible is just a novel?
Another, when did science confirmed that the earth is round? Was it 19th/20th century?
Yet the Bible writers knew this fact more than 3000 years ago. Now how did they know this bit of information if the Bible is just a novel? Hmmm...
Another, when did science figured out the DNA can be written in codes? Was it around the 20th century?
Yet the Bible writers knew this fact around 3000 years ago. Now how did they know this bit of information if the Bible is just a novel? Hmmm...
So like I said it's not faith alone but facts! But do you know that faith is not real faith if not based on facts! It's called blind faith, just
like evolution is - it is based on blind chance.
But you say:
Evolution is based on science and study.
Sure but don't forget, it's also based on lots and lots of assumptions and on incomplete data.
If you are a creationist and believe that further study of something is no needed because you just believe then why study anything at all?
To the contrary, we study nature in order to understand the meaning and purpose behind it. Why the Creator created it that way. The more we learn
about nature the more we understand the Creator. Perfect example is given by the OP.
Evolution on the other hand is still stuck on the mud (so to speak), still looking for the answer on the origins of life. How the so called "the
selfish gene" evolved from a "mud" into single membrane-less celled "organism" to its current forms. Proponents of it are still theorizing of
another theory to prove the first theory is a probable theory. Oh well, to each its own.