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<Holger> ScribeNick: Holger
<ocorcho> +3491336aadd is ocorcho
<scribe> ScribeNick: ocorcho
Sven Schade: presenting the SWING project
scribe: in the geospatial Web,
semantics can represent the real world
... annotation is the connection between the data model and ontologies
... original problems: lack of ontologies, requires specialists to annotate, high learning curve
... using WSMO
... feature type ontology, connected through subConceptOf relationships with OGC and ISO ontologies, and annotating domain ontologies
... presentations at several standardisation meetings
ocorcho: which languages are these ontologies available?
<jgraybea> voice is unintelligible for me (echoes)
<krzysztof_j> the link http://swing.uni-muenster.de/core/
Sven: the repository will be
... and ontologies can be exported into OWL
cory: different levels of annotation (metadata, schema, etc.). Is there any discussion about which level is more useful?
Sven: mainly using metadata level
annotations, although other types of annotations could be
... some discussions in the OGC discussion paper, and looking for more experiencies
cory: it seems more like concept to concept annotation, instead of instance to instance, or other types
sven: annotations between feature type ontology and domain ontologies are at the instance level
Luis: how many concepts are there in the registry? Do you want to the details of capturing unit semantics in different domains?
sven: GML data can be transformed into a set of domain-independent ontologies. Also domain ontologies available. Also an ontology of measurement units
cory: it seems that service
descriptions are somehow out of the scope of the group for the
... but good presentation overall
kerry: how have you solved the issue of requiring specialists for annotation?
<jgraybea> Question: How often did you (do you) reuse ontologies developed elsewhere?
sven: in the SWING project there were domain experts, who were able to use annotation tools, so it was not a major issue.
kerry: it seems that there were no special mechanisms for specialists to provide missing knowledge, adapt existing one, etc., isn't it?
jgraybeal: How often did you (do you) reuse ontologies developed elsewhere?
sven: some were reused, although
translated to WSML. Much harder with domain ontologies. Reuse
still an issue
... some similarity reasoning techniques were tried
<jgraybea> interesting that the condition of the foreign ontologies (unannotated, not modular) prevented reuse
Holger: no conclusions yet. We do not understand well the licenses issues. Not sure if sharing our developments yet in sourceforge
Krzysztof: Creative Commons License seems to be used quite well
<scribe> ACTION: Holger to check license requirements for W3C projects [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/21-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
<krzysztof_j> basically only that we should make all our work public asap
jgraybea: basic consensus reached in the mailing lists: normal CVS versioning vs common repository
<kerry> yes -- what john said.
<kerry> I would feel comfortable with John's repositiry depsite the shortcomings he noted
jgraybea: there are repositories available out there, but there are still features that would be interesting to have (list of features available and sent to the mai,ling list)
kerry: I would feel comfortable with John's repositiry depsite the shortcomings he noted
<rgarcia> we also agree at UPM
<jgraybea> +1 (thank you Kerry)
<Holger> ScribeNick: Holger
<scribe> ACTION: Holger and John to drive ontology transfer to repository [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/21-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
Kerry: editing environment?
John: no initial necessety for colab-protege
John: investigate in parallel
<jgraybea> a collaborative platform does make things more collaborative, which is valuable
Krzysztof: some kind of colab env lowers level for participation
<krzysztof_j> i have to leave now, sorry
Yes, Oscar, you left at the wrong moment ;-)
But that's OK, I'll finish it up.
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