... it's not what you manage to utter that matters
it's what you manage to show true that does....
... truth is something that can be demonstrated to be fact
and fact is something that can be demonstrated to be true....
The creationist's doctrine seems to center around the premises that an invisible, perfect, omnipotent deity -called God- created all that is.
What one of those premises, in effect, appears to infer is that an abstraction is the cause of concretes, i.e., that an abstraction must exist otherwise concretes would not.
Let's go with those premises and consider one of the implications, derived from those premises, in the form of an argument:
- If God is perfect, then there can be no disequilibrium with(in) God - due to the defining characteristic of "perfect".
- If there is no disequilibrium with(in) God, then there is nothing God needs, nothing God wants - thus nothing God must or will do.
- A God that is perfect does nothing - except exist.
- A perfect God then, does nothing - which would reveal its existence.
- A perfect God that creates is thereupon self-refuting.
- And that of which its nature is self-contradictory cannot, and therefore does not, exist.
... an imperfect creator-God might be compelled to create what it does not have or feels is missing. Imperfect however, begets imperfection -as Matthew 7:16-20 confirms- which explains why imperfections exist since ultimately it is God who created all that is. A creator-God therefore, must be, by implication, and thus definition, imperfect. Those imperfect creator(god)s are us.
The logician: 'here are the demonstrable facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?'
The believer: 'here is the conclusion, what alleged facts can we conjure to justify it?'
"God" (who is "Jesus")
An invisible, perfect, omni-everything deity named "God" created the earth, nay, the solar system, nay, the galaxy, nay, the universe, well, just about everything really, in six days, out of nowhere, and for no apparent reason. After that, this invisible, perfect, omni-everything deity ceased creating out of nowhere and went on 'establishing' in complicated, roundabout and rather contrived ways - as any all-powerful entity would, naturally.
"Jesus" (who is "God")
Except for an introduction in "Luke" -in which it is stated what follows is hearsay- the gospels are not signed and written in the third person perspective (as by an invisible narrator). The authors, blatantly, never situate themselves within the unfolding narrative nor give any hint they themselves were involved in the events described. Several narratives even involve Jesus by himself, i.e., without any witnesses present. ~8^\
- hearsay: unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another; not part of one's direct knowledge
'Every time we read in ecclesial books a tale of which its reality seems impossible; a story defying reason and common sense, be assured the tale to be an allegory; containing a universal truth or two, and the greater the absurdity of the tale, the deeper the possible wisdom.'
If the bible is literally true, then what better truth
in support of invalidating itself, in effect negating
much of what is claimed
When the apologetic creationists of his world are presented with deductive, valid and sound arguments showing their emotional, wishful thinking exactly that and/or incontrovertibly mistaken, they either go silent, in denial or turn dishonest, personal, abusive, absurd even in any combination thereof and cannot seem to help themselves but advertise it, therewith granting the courtesy of instant clarification.
Always keep in mind : your brain can only comprehend 3 categories to put information in.
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